Joe Rogan Experience #2265 - Kurt Metzger

Joe Rogan's podcast episode features a sprawling conversation that touches on numerous topics, including the history and influence of Saturday Night Live, the controversies surrounding Al Franken, and the cultural impact of Phil Hartman. The discussion delves into the speculative world of cryptocurrencies, particularly focusing on the Trump coin and its implications. Rogan and his guests also explore conspiracy theories, such as the role of the CIA in historical events, the influence of elite groups, and the concept of mind control. The episode is a mix of humor, skepticism, and deep dives into alternative narratives, reflecting Rogan's signature style of exploring the fringes of mainstream thought.

• Discussion about the humor and sketches from the early days of "Saturday Night Live" (SNL), particularly when Phil Hartman was a cast member.
• Mention of Al Franken and his controversial exit from the Senate, highlighting how public figures are sometimes subject to intense scrutiny.
• The conversation touches on how comedy sketches can be perceived differently over time.

"SNL was great when Phil Hartman was on it. The early days of SNL were amazing."

• Reflects on the impact and quality of comedy during Phil Hartman's tenure on SNL.

• References to historical myths and religious practices, such as those involving the goddess Cybele and the Roman customs.
• Discussion on how ancient myths and rituals have parallels in modern society and how themes repeat over time.

"They cut off their genitals and go about shrieking in the street. They cast themselves as a sign of devotion to the goddess."

• Illustrates the extreme devotion and rituals from historical myths, drawing parallels to modern cultural practices.

• Examination of Trump Coin and other cryptocurrencies as forms of modern gambling and financial speculation.
• Discussion on how cryptocurrencies can be seen as scams or legitimate investments, depending on perspective and understanding.
• Mention of the volatility and speculative nature of the cryptocurrency market.

"The Trump coin's worth $36 billion. What that means is 36,000 people might have put a million dollars in."

• Highlights the speculative nature and potential for financial manipulation in the cryptocurrency market.

• Critique of political figures and their financial dealings, such as Kamala Harris's campaign spending.
• Examination of how political campaigns can be perceived as financial schemes or "pump and dump" operations.
• Discussion on the influence of media and public perception in politics.

"She's a human pump and dump, right? Because what was the final tally for the amount of money they spent?"

• Suggests that political campaigns can be financially exploitative and driven by special interests.

• Conversation about genetic manipulation and the potential for enhancing human intelligence or other traits.
• Ethical concerns about playing God and the possible unintended consequences of genetic engineering.
• Comparison of scientific advancements in different countries, such as China's experiments with genetic modifications.

"They were trying to take these babies and make them immune to HIV, but what they were really doing was making their propensity for intelligence much higher."

• Raises ethical questions about the purpose and consequences of genetic engineering.

• Discussion on conspiracy theories related to government secrecy, such as the JFK assassination and MK-Ultra.
• Speculation on the existence of deep state operations and the manipulation of public figures.
• Examination of historical events and their potential hidden truths.

"I think it's Monarch, dude. I think it's part of... I hope they're going to get that off their chest that MK Ultra never ended."

• Suggests that government conspiracies and secret operations may still be ongoing and have historical roots.

• Critique of the education system as a means of social conditioning and control.
• Discussion on how early education impacts individual development and critical thinking.
• Personal anecdotes about experiences in school and how they shape perceptions of authority.

"I went to first grade. First grade was the first time I went to school, so I was with my family this loving Italian family... and then all of a sudden I'm being controlled by this nun who was a ruthless."

• Reflects on the impact of early educational experiences on personal development and skepticism of authority.

• Critique of media narratives and the manipulation of public perception through selective reporting.
• Discussion on the role of independent journalism in uncovering truths and challenging mainstream narratives.
• Examination of how media can shape public understanding of political and social issues.

"The whole media tried to ruin me for a month... And he was a very left... He used to say there's no left here."

• Highlights the challenges faced by individuals who oppose mainstream media narratives and the importance of independent voices.

• Discussion of the concept of the New World Order as not being an invention of Alex Jones, but something openly discussed by historical figures like George H.W. Bush.
• Mention of Bill Clinton and the perception of his political charm versus a darker side.

"Alex Jones didn't make up the New World Order. George H.W. Bush, a thousand points of light, a new world order."

• The quote emphasizes that the New World Order is a concept acknowledged by prominent political figures, not just conspiracy theorists.

• Barry Crimmins is highlighted as a significant figure in the Boston comedy scene, known for maintaining high standards and being a non-conformist.
• Crimmins is described as a far-left individual who supported American workers and products.

"Barry Crimmins was the glue that kept the Boston comedy community together... he was the reason why everybody there, there's no hacks."

• This quote underscores Barry Crimmins' influential role in shaping the comedy community by setting high standards and being a unifying force.

• Discussion on how the meanings of words are being altered, leading to confusion and loss of original intent.
• Example given of the term "vaccine" and how its meaning has been changed over time.

"What we do is take the meanings of words and we all stick our dick in it and gape the word until all the meaning slides out of it."

• The quote illustrates the perceived manipulation of language, leading to a dilution of meaning and public understanding.

• Exploration of various conspiracy theories, including the origin of the term "tinfoil hat" and its connection to CIA experiments.
• Mention of brain chips and their historical development.

"That's where we get the term tinfoil hat from a guy the CIA mutilated and messed up, and now we say it as a joke."

• This quote explains the origin of the term "tinfoil hat" as rooted in a real CIA experiment, highlighting the dark history behind a commonly used phrase.

• Discussion on mind control experiments conducted by the CIA, including the use of brain chips and the concept of the "woke mind virus."
• Mention of historical experiments on unsuspecting populations, such as in San Francisco and St. Louis.

"The pain of that in his brain made him put metal trash cans on his head... and that's where we get the term tinfoil hat."

• The quote provides insight into the extreme measures taken by individuals subjected to mind control experiments, illustrating the severity of these governmental actions.

• Debate over the existence of UFOs and whether advanced technology is of human or alien origin.
• Speculation about government possession of top-secret propulsion systems far more advanced than current public technology.

"Does the government have some sort of like top-secret propulsion system that's 50 years advanced from what we have now?"

• This quote raises questions about the government's potential possession of highly advanced technology and its implications for public knowledge and security.

• Concerns about increasing surveillance and the loss of privacy, likened to a god-like ability to watch everyone.
• Discussion on the societal implications of such surveillance systems.

"The idea that no one will have any privacy and that way everyone will behave except for you, right?"

• The quote highlights the paradox of surveillance systems designed to ensure public compliance while exempting those in control, suggesting a power imbalance.

• Examination of the use of propaganda in media, particularly following the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, which allows for domestic propaganda.
• Discussion on the impact of government influence on news and public perception.

"Obama signed a thing that they can propagandize citizens... government-made news is great."

• This quote points to the legal framework enabling government propaganda within the United States, raising concerns about media integrity and public trust.

• Exploration of the historical significance of gold as a currency and its mysterious appeal throughout history.
• Discussion on theories regarding the origins of gold's value and its potential extraterrestrial connections.

"Gold doesn't serve any functional purpose to evolving man, but yet... it became the number one source of currency."

• The quote questions the historical prioritization of gold as a currency, suggesting a deeper, possibly unexplained significance.

• Discussion on Zechariah Sitchin's theories about ancient civilizations and their connections to extraterrestrial beings.
• Debate over the credibility of Sitchin's interpretations of ancient texts.

"The Sumerian Tablets talk about how their atmosphere was eroding and that they needed to spray gold at their atmosphere."

• The quote highlights Sitchin's controversial theory linking ancient Sumerian texts to alien interventions, providing a speculative explanation for historical events.

• Discussion of the Anunnaki and Nibiru as part of humanity's origin story, with skepticism about the validity of these claims.
• Comparison of secretive religious practices to Scientology, highlighting the idea of mystery schools where beliefs are revealed only after deep involvement.
• Exploration of how ancient religious and control systems, like those of the Egyptians, were used to maintain power and control over people.

"The earliest versions of the origin story of humanity are so weird that I don't think anybody really totally understands how to interpret them properly."

• Suggests the complexity and mystery surrounding ancient human origin stories.

"It's almost like a Scientology zenu scam... a religion where I don't tell you what the belief is until you like in too deep to not believe it."

• Compares secretive religious practices to Scientology, emphasizing manipulation.

• Examination of how religious frameworks can contribute to personal success and discipline, citing examples like Dagestan fighters.
• Inquiry into the methods of control used by ancient priests and the potential secrets held by powerful groups throughout history.
• Discussion on the nature of power and the desire to maintain it, with parallels drawn to political and social structures.

"I think having a religious framework helps you become successful. I think it's one of the keys to like these Dagestan fighters in the UFC."

• Highlights the role of religious discipline in achieving success.

"Everybody who's in power wants to stay in power because that's the game."

• Describes the inherent desire of those in power to maintain their status.

• Discussion on the volatility and speculative nature of meme coins and cryptocurrencies.
• Debate on the benefits and drawbacks of decentralized currencies versus traditional banking systems.
• Exploration of how cryptocurrencies can be used for fundraising and financial manipulation.

"Isn't that weird and is that weird and bad or is it weird and different or is it better than having a Central Bank that's controlled by something that's supposed to be the Federal Reserve but it's not federal?"

• Questions the nature and control of decentralized currencies compared to traditional systems.

"If you're the president, you can make a coin, you make $36 billion off that coin in a day or two."

• Highlights the potential for financial gain and manipulation through cryptocurrency creation.

• Examination of how information and media can be used for social control and manipulation.
• Discussion on astroturfing and the use of social media by political entities to influence public opinion.
• Exploration of historical and modern methods of societal disruption and control, including the use of psychological tactics.

"If you're a George Soros type character and you're funding these Ultra liberal Progressive Das to leak crime back out onto the streets... that would be a way to do the same kind of thing."

• Suggests deliberate social manipulation through policy and funding.

"The act of simple sabotage manual... describes everything that's going on around you."

• References a historical manual as a metaphor for modern social and political disruption tactics.

• Discussion on the historical use of conspiracy theories to control narratives and silence dissent.
• Exploration of historical events and figures, such as JFK's assassination, with a focus on potential cover-ups and secret agendas.
• Consideration of how historical alliances and operations, like Operation Paperclip, have shaped current geopolitical landscapes.

"The term conspiracy theory lest we all forget came out of Allen Dulles at the CIA after they murdered JFK."

• Points to the origin of the term "conspiracy theory" as a tool for narrative control.

"Operation Paperclip is a real thing."

• Acknowledges the historical reality of Operation Paperclip and its implications.

• Discussion on how elites throughout history have always sought to consolidate power and wealth, paralleling modern-day elites.
• The idea of elites building their own pyramids of power, much like historical figures, using wealth and influence.

"Isn't it interesting that we always know that that has been the case throughout history but we don't want to believe it's happening with the elites of the world now?"

• This quote reflects the skepticism about the continued existence of power structures where elites consolidate wealth and influence, similar to historical patterns.

• Exploration of the vast number of cryptocurrencies and the concept of creating new coins.
• Mention of a coin called "Fart coin" and the process of creating coins using AI.
• Discussion about the legitimacy and backing of cryptocurrency valuations.

"There's a coin called Fart coin that started up... someone turned on two like an AI maybe two AIS and gave it some parameters and it created this coin."

• Highlights the arbitrary and sometimes absurd nature of cryptocurrency creation and the role of AI in generating new coins.

• Discussion on Bernie Sanders' political journey and the backlash he faced for making money from his book.
• Examination of identity politics and how it can detract from substantive political discourse.

"One of my favorite things was in the Bernie people were mad at Bernie for making money off of his book because he made like million bucks off his book."

• Reflects the tension between political ideals and personal financial success, particularly in the context of Bernie Sanders' career.

• Discussion on the historical and current importance of salt in human health.
• Critique of misinformation regarding salt's impact on blood pressure and health.
• Mention of the sugar industry's influence on public health narratives.

"Salt was worth so much money cuz you could preserve meat with it otherwise you couldn't have meat cuz they didn't have refrigeration."

• Emphasizes the historical value of salt as a preservative and its essential role in human health.

• Critique of climate change predictions and the comparison to doomsday prophecies.
• Discussion on the narrative surrounding fossil fuels and the concept of carbon footprints.
• Mention of misinformation and exaggeration in climate change discourse.

"Meanwhile climate change has predicted the end of the world I can think of like four times off the top of my head."

• Expresses skepticism about repeated climate change predictions and their reliability.

• Criticism of public health narratives that downplay the importance of diet and exercise.
• Discussion on the role of authority figures in shaping health policies and the potential for conflicts of interest.

"If you are not addressing that science and your only science is I have to stick you with an experimental needle... Jesus Christ."

• Highlights concerns about the focus on pharmaceutical interventions over holistic health approaches.

• Exploration of the UFO phenomenon and its implications for government transparency.
• Discussion on how UFOs challenge the perception of government control and power.

"The problem with the UAP thing is it dissolves our faith in government because government is just as useless as us."

• Suggests that the UFO phenomenon undermines public trust in government by revealing limitations in governmental power and knowledge.

• Examination of historical mind control experiments and their portrayal in media.
• Discussion on the use of fear and propaganda in shaping public perception.

"That's why you we have the story of the mancherian candidate because China was go whoever the was going to do it."

• Reflects on the historical context of mind control narratives and their impact on public consciousness.

• Exploration of alleged alien encounters and the stories surrounding them.
• Discussion on the cultural and narrative aspects of alien myths and their implications for human understanding.

"Charles Hall is very specific about how they did things... they had voice to skull they had a thing where they could talk into your head."

• Illustrates the complexity and intrigue surrounding alien encounter narratives and the technology attributed to extraterrestrial beings.

• Analysis of military recruitment and propaganda efforts, particularly in psychological operations.
• Discussion on the use of media and narratives to influence public opinion and recruit individuals.

"Modern War has become a struggle for men's Minds as well well as for their bodies."

• Highlights the shift in warfare strategies from physical combat to psychological influence and control.