Summary notes created by Deciphr AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RhdIp5dkn0&list=PLehDM9olevhzBYeul93GtB6P2POKX-Bro&index=2&ab_channel=ArchaeologicalFantasiesThe Archaeological Fantasies Podcast, hosted by Sarah and co-host Ken Fader, delves into the Koso artifact, a supposed ancient geode that, when cut open, revealed a 1920s-era Champion spark plug. The episode critically examines the myths and misinterpretations surrounding the artifact, highlighting how natural processes can create misleading appearances. They discuss how such artifacts are often used by fringe groups to support outlandish theories, such as advanced ancient technologies or rapid geological formations, despite clear debunking by experts. The podcast underscores the importance of critical thinking and proper scientific inquiry in archaeology.
"What is the Koso artifact? Is it a geode? Is it even a rock? If it's not those, what is it?"
"In February of 1961, there were three amateur geologists, Wallace Lane, Virginia Maxey, and Michael Mikesell, and they owned a rock shop and they would frequently go and look for rocks in the California area that they could take home, rocks and geodes, so they could take back to their store and sell them."
"Mike Mikesell claims that he ruined a brand new diamond-bladed saw while trying to cut the specimen in half. And once he did finally get it open, he noticed that there was a perfect circular section of hard white material that appeared to be porcelain, and in the center of the porcelain was a cylinder that was a two-millimeter shaft of bright metal which responded to a magnet."
"It's a great word, I mean, it's a neologism. It's a brand new word like 30 years ago, and it's O-O-P-Art. It's art for artifact, and the OOP is out of place."
"If you've ever seen a concretion or the way concretion grows around iron objects, I mean, you know instantly what you're looking at for sure because you've got that soft white cortex and then the rusts are on the inside."
"Miss Maxey claims that she took this geode at one point to an educated geologist who is unnamed, and that particular geologist somehow was able to date the geode and the artifact to be 500,000 years old."
"Anybody can have cards drawn up saying geologist or archaeologist, and there is no... legal definition."
"The Koso artifact is a wonderful test case because it's exactly what's being claimed... it's also because it's just so bloody lame."
"It's like stories people tell around campfires at night. It's cool, it's scary, but where's the evidence? Where is the physical evidence to back it up? We don't have it."
"We do have evidence that it did exist because as I stated earlier we do have some colored photographs and, uh, there was an individual who was allowed to examine it, his name was Ron Kallis."
"The X-ray becomes critical in the debunking of this artifact because it clearly shows what is inside of the concretions both halves."
"The last person known to own it to possess it physically was Wallace Lane... he did have a standing offer up until 1999 to sell it for $25,000."
"They send it to a gentleman, his name's Chad Windham... and so he thought that they were joking and they were trying to pull one over on him."
"Even a small piece of metal that has an iron content to it can create a very large shell for lack of a better term around it of this kind of soft material."
"You've got these three experienced geode hunters who come across this object; there's no way they didn't know that it wasn't a geode."
"The creationists will completely accept that that is a 1920 spark plug without question... they seem to think that it is [stone]."
"I've seen creationists try to use what I consider bad math to kind of drive home their younger viewpoint doing themselves a huge disservice."
"Not only does he say it's a spark plug, he can give us the year and the company that manufactured it."
"Creationists say what this proves is they had internal combustion engines around about the time of Noah's flood which throws all of archaeological chronologies and historical chronologies and geological chronologies throws them all out of whack."
"We knew something was amiss but I can also tell you that anybody who is not familiar with has no very little experience digging in stratigraphic levels and keeping track of all that stuff it was subtle enough that I don't think they would have caught it anyway."
"Merely because two objects are found at a particular depth does not make them old and it doesn't make them even the same age you have to look very carefully to make sure they come from the same natural or cultural stratigraphic level."
"When somebody tells you but this ooh part this object was found 20 feet deep in a coal mine that doesn't mean anything because stuff can move around stratigraphically whether it's a woodchuck digging to burrow a farmer digging uh digging holes for fence posts somebody putting in a foundation or somebody digging coal material gets mixed around all of the time."
"What's old in Connecticut is not necessarily old in Wyoming where there's stuff's on the surface."
"If you read something about a new part where somebody says yes but we found it at a depth of 20 feet that means absolutely nothing unless you're real familiar with the soils in that area."
"Ancient alien theorists view the coastal artifact they see it as evidence of advanced technology at a much earlier stage in human development than we give people credit and a lot of times of course they're associating that with the aliens who came and gave us this technology."
"I've never read of an oop part that reflects a future technology a technology we don't already have in our history."
Ancient Technology Claims:
Claims of advanced ancient technology (e.g., Apple Watches, iPads) lack credible evidence.
Artifacts found are always consistent with the known technology of their time period.
The artifacts are often misinterpreted or misrepresented to fit a narrative of advanced ancient civilizations.
"Wouldn't it be great if somebody in the 1950s claimed that they found something and what the hell it was and it turned out to be an Apple Watch right?"
Highlights the unrealistic nature of claims about advanced ancient technology.
"They're always technologies that are from the context of the time period they're being excavated."
Emphasizes that artifacts found are always historically consistent.
"It's never some technology that we can't immediately identify; it's merely that they're claiming, well, but it's older than you would expect it to be."
Victorian Era Fakes:
Similarities between modern artifact claims and Victorian-era frauds.
Many artifacts from the Victorian era were fabricated to appear ancient.
"There was that period of time where everybody was finding basically fraud pieces but they were claiming that they were ancient artifacts."
Draws a parallel between modern and Victorian-era artifact frauds.
"You will never find one older than modern human tech, not modern day but modern historical technology."
Non-Artifacts as Artifacts:
Modern phenomena of interpreting natural objects as historical artifacts.
Often a willful misinterpretation of natural rock formations or recognized historical artifacts.
"It's almost a willful misinterpretation of rock or of commonly understood and recognized historical artifacts and trying to force them into a context that just doesn't fit a standard chronology."
Discusses the intentional misinterpretation of objects to fit a narrative.
"It's not that they're creating fakes this time, but it is finding non-artifacts and trying to assign them the status of artifact."
Background and Location:
The Coso Artifact was found in California, near the Naval Air Weapons Station at China Lake.
The area is rich in genuine archaeological sites, particularly rock art.
"The Coso artifact is called the Coso artifact. This was found in a little town in California along the Coso Range."
Provides the geographical context of the Coso Artifact.
"There are four canyons in the Koso range on this base that have the densest concentration of rock art you're going to find anywhere in the world."
Genuine Archaeology vs. Misinterpretation:
Emphasis on the value of genuine archaeology over sensationalized non-artifacts.
Encourages visiting real archaeological sites to appreciate authentic historical artifacts.
"Real Deal archaeology is so much more interesting than the [__] archaeology that we end up having to discuss here."
Advocates for focusing on genuine archaeological discoveries.
"If you want to see real Coso artifacts, go to the little get a tour of Little Petroglyph Canyon."
Formation of the Coso Artifact:
The artifact is a result of natural chemical reactions involving iron and soil.
Misinterpretation stems from a lack of understanding of these natural processes.
"It's a chemical reaction between ferric materials and the soil and the matrices around them."
Explains the natural formation process of the Coso Artifact.
"Once you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about, but until you see it, you really don't have it's hard to explain."
Disappointment in Misinterpretation:
The artifact is often disappointingly misinterpreted as evidence of advanced ancient technology.
Encourages a focus on genuine, scientifically-supported archaeological findings.
"It's so obvious that it's not a real artifact yet people still to this day push for the Coso artifact to be a real artifact."
Expresses frustration with the persistent misinterpretation of the artifact.
"It's not evidence of aliens, it's not evidence of a global flood, it's not evidence of anything other than natural processes at work."
Visiting Authentic Sites:
Encourages the audience to explore genuine archaeological sites for a true understanding of history.
Highlights the educational value of seeing real artifacts in their historical context.
"I highly recommend it. Mike Baskerville actually gave me a private tour because, you know, I'm an archaeologist."
Recommends visiting authentic sites and learning from experts.
"Go do that. That's your takeaway from today is if you want to see real Coso artifacts, go to the little get a tour of Little Petroglyph Canyon."
Encouragement to Engage with Genuine Archaeology:
Reiterates the importance of engaging with authentic archaeological research and sites.
Criticizes the focus on debunked or misinterpreted artifacts.
"If you're a Believer, if this is the best you've got, you got to find something a little more interesting."
Challenges believers in sensational claims to seek out more credible evidence.
"Don't use the Coso artifact. It's not a good find something better."
Podcast Editing Volunteers:
A call for volunteers with editing skills to help maintain the podcast's publishing schedule.
Encourages listeners to contribute to the podcasting network.
"We are currently in need of individuals with editing skills who can help us put together these shows and keep to our rigorous publishing schedule."
Requests help from listeners with editing skills.
"If you think you have what it takes to help us edit and keep these shows on the air, email us."