In this episode of Acquired, Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal delve into the complex history and impact of Standard Oil and its founder, John D. Rockefeller. They explore the company's aggressive expansion strategies, including the Cleveland Massacre and the use of trusts to control the oil industry. Despite Rockefeller's philanthropic endeavors and the eventual breakup of Standard Oil in 1911 by the Supreme Court, the dissolution ironically increased Rockefeller's wealth, as the resulting companies' share prices soared. The hosts reflect on the legacy of Standard Oil, considering its parallels with modern tech giants and the role of regulation in curbing monopolistic practices. They also discuss the Rockefeller family's continued influence through their philanthropic work and the recent decision by the Rockefeller Foundation to divest from fossil fuels.
"Oh, it's so going to kill me."
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"Welcome to season nine, episode five of Acquired, the podcast about great technology companies and the stories and playbooks behind them."
This quote serves as the formal introduction to the episode, indicating the podcast's theme and what listeners can expect.
"We have had a pretty crazy month here at Acquired, starting with the TSMC episode we have just been on."
David highlights the podcast's significant growth, attributing it to recent episodes that resonated with the audience.
"By the time y'all hear this, Jenny and I will have had a little baby girl that we are expecting any day now."
David's quote shares his personal life update with the listeners, revealing the anticipation and challenges of balancing work with impending fatherhood.
"Pilot both sets up and operates your company's entire financial stack."
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"This is not investment advice. This is for entertainment and educational purposes."
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"Everybody's having a good laugh about it. The political money is still flowing around like Hotcakes or fine wine, which, of course, Rockefeller didn't drink."
This quote illustrates the perceived lack of threat from the Sherman Antitrust Act and hints at Rockefeller's personal habits.
"I am so constituted as to be unable to give away money with any satisfaction until I have made the most careful inquiry as to the worthiness of the cause."
Rockefeller's quote reveals his meticulous approach to philanthropy, emphasizing his need for careful evaluation before donating.
"We have money, but it will have value for mankind only if we..."
Rockefeller's unfinished quote signifies his intention to use his wealth for the betterment of humanity through structured philanthropic efforts.
"When history passes its final verdict on John D. Rockefeller, it may well be that his endowment of research will be recognized as a milestone in the progress of the race."
This quote by Winston Churchill encapsulates the significant impact of Rockefeller's contributions to scientific research, suggesting that his legacy may be most remembered for advancing human knowledge and welfare.
"It was diametrically opposed to the University of Chicago project, where that was super high overhead, big deal, out of the gate, a lot of pomp and circumstance, and with the Rockefeller University or what would become that. It was almost like the lean startup."
Ben Gilbert draws a parallel between the lean, focused approach of Rockefeller University and modern lean startup methodologies, contrasting it with the more traditional, grandiose approach of the University of Chicago.
"So they go first to the University of Chicago, then to Yale, then to Vanderbilt, then to all these other institutions, and they just give tens of millions of dollars."
David Rosenthal outlines the systematic approach taken by Rockefeller and his associates to reform medical education nationwide, emphasizing the large-scale financial investment made to ensure the adoption of the Johns Hopkins model.
"They set up in 1913, they get a charter from the state of New York. I don't know exactly how this works. I think it was a federal charter granted in the state of New York to create the Rockefeller foundation, which still exists to this day."
David Rosenthal describes the establishment of the Rockefeller Foundation, highlighting its ongoing influence and the legal framework under which it was created.
"The breakup of Standard Oil."
Ben Gilbert introduces the topic of the breakup, signaling a shift in the narrative to focus on the legal and financial consequences faced by Standard Oil due to its monopolistic practices.
"So standard and the business community and Mark Hanna. They come up with a brilliant, genius solution to their new problems from Roosevelt in the state of New York."
David Rosenthal discusses the strategic, albeit ultimately unsuccessful, efforts by Standard Oil and its allies to neutralize Roosevelt's influence by nominating him for vice president, which inadvertently positioned him to intensify antitrust actions against the company.
"Tarbell uncovers and documents exactly how the Cleveland massacre went down."
David Rosenthal acknowledges Tarbell's critical role in uncovering the true history of Standard Oil's rise and its aggressive tactics, which had long been shrouded in secrecy.
"JD, he obviously doesn't want to do this, so he goes into hiding."
David Rosenthal describes Rockefeller's evasion of legal processes, painting a picture of the lengths to which he went to avoid personal legal repercussions for Standard Oil's actions.
"US Supreme Court Chief Justice Edward White reads the decision."
David Rosenthal marks the decisive moment when the Supreme Court ruled against Standard Oil, emphasizing the gravity and historical significance of the court's verdict.
"The Supreme Court upholds the decision of finding against Standard Oil. They are indeed in restraint of trade and orders them... to be irrevocably cannot undo this, broken up into 34 separate companies and it has to happen within the next six months."
This quote summarizes the Supreme Court's final decision on the antitrust case against Standard Oil, highlighting the significant impact on the company by mandating its division into 34 separate entities.
"John Rockefeller says, because if you did, you should buy some Standard Oil stock right now."
Rockefeller's immediate reaction to the breakup news was to see the investment opportunity, illustrating his business acumen and foresight into the financial implications of the breakup.
"Rockefeller was converted from a mere millionaire with an estimated net worth of 300 million in 1911 into something just short of history's first billionaire."
This quote highlights how the breakup of Standard Oil paradoxically resulted in a massive increase in Rockefeller's personal wealth, making him one of the richest individuals in history.
"Standard Oil is dead. Long live Standard Oil."
This quote reflects the irony of Standard Oil's breakup, where despite the government's attempt to dismantle the company, the resulting entities thrived, and the influence of Standard Oil persisted in the industry.
"The Rockefeller family is now seven generations in. There's about 170 heirs."
This quote emphasizes the long-lasting impact of Rockefeller's wealth and philanthropy, which has extended through multiple generations and continues to play a significant role in various societal domains.
"They were insatiable. Even some of the more nefarious tactics. You're right, probably led to good things for everyone, especially for the people who did end up taking Standard oil shares rather than being run out of business."
This quote emphasizes that while Standard Oil's tactics were aggressive, they ultimately resulted in benefits for shareholders who received company shares.
"At a certain point, I think it did become at least not as good for consumers."
The quote highlights the turning point when Standard Oil's practices started to harm consumers by raising prices due to their monopolistic position.
"This is happening again now with tech, or let's at least say it's happening in social networking where they're being rolled up together."
This quote identifies the current trend of consolidation in the tech industry, particularly in social networking, which mirrors Standard Oil's historical consolidation of the oil industry.
"Anytime somebody declares the end of something, this game is over, this market is over, blah, blah, blah, they're wrong."
The quote suggests that declarations about the end of market opportunities are often premature, as new developments and technologies can unexpectedly change the competitive landscape.
"Regulation, by definition, will always limit innovation because it says you can do less stuff in the world."
This quote captures the tension between the need for regulation to prevent harmful practices and the potential for it to inhibit innovation.
"Paradigm shifts happen, new technologies happen, and they will always unseat incumbents."
The quote expresses the belief that market dynamics and technological progress will eventually challenge and disrupt existing monopolies, potentially reducing the need for aggressive antitrust actions.
"Even the largest holder of the remnant shares of the Standard oil company is now saying it is time for us to get rid of these."
This quote points to the symbolic and practical significance of the Rockefeller Foundation's decision to divest from fossil fuels, marking a shift away from the legacy of Standard Oil.
"Quality of life, no doubt, would not be what we have today if not for all the fossil fuels we burned."
The quote acknowledges the complex role of fossil fuels in improving living standards, despite their negative environmental consequences.