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https://youtu.be/3pkjc7l4OK8?si=FRMChGMmqBRvekC8Hosts Cameron and Lisa of the "Swiftly Spoken" podcast dissect Taylor Swift's self-defined musical genre classifications—glitter gel pen, fountain pen, and quill—originating from her 2022 Nashville Songwriter Award speech. They critique the official playlists, arguing they were more marketing tools than accurate representations, and propose their own song selections that truly embody each category. The glitter gel pen represents frivolous, carefree songs, while the fountain pen captures vivid, confessional storytelling, and the quill pen evokes poetic, old-fashioned lyricism. They emphasize the evolution of Swift's songwriting and how certain songs epitomize these styles, also hinting at the anticipation for Swift's upcoming "Tortured Poet's Department," which they speculate will lean towards the quill and fountain pen genres.
"Back in September of 2022, she won a songwriter's award and she made a speech in which basically she first mentioned and described these three pens."
The quote explains the origin of the three musical genre categories as pens, introduced by Taylor Swift during an award acceptance speech.
"Glitter gel pen songs don't care if you don't take themselves seriously because they don't take themselves seriously."
This quote defines the glitter gel pen songs as lighthearted and carefree, not concerned with being taken seriously.
"I do hope they come back in this new era in this new album cycle with uh the tortured poets Department because it does feel very it lends itself very well to the idea of being a tortured poet a quill pen."
The quote expresses a wish for the return of the pen classifications, particularly the quill pen, in the context of Taylor Swift's future work.
"I think that they were used as just kind of to gain streams... it just didn't or like all of the midnight songs bar vigilante were included just to kind of build the midnight."
The quote critiques the official playlists for including songs primarily for promotional purposes rather than accurately representing the pen categories.
"We've tried to kind of pick across her discography and pick 13 songs that we think best represent these different categories better than the ones that are on Apple Music."
The quote indicates the hosts' intention to curate a playlist that more accurately represents Taylor Swift's classification of her songs according to the pen categories.
"litter gel pen description at the Nashville song Awards didn't she give a mention to shake it off I thought she did."
This quote refers to Taylor Swift's speech at the Nashville song awards, where she mentioned "Shake It Off," setting the stage for the playlist discussion.
"yes and then to not include it it makes it so blatantly obvious that."
Here, the speaker notes the conspicuous absence of "Shake It Off" from the playlist, indicating it was a deliberate choice due to ownership issues.
"and we're never ever getting back together again there's no explanation needed really is there 100% they just make sense."
The speaker confirms the natural fit of "22" and "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" in the playlist, emphasizing their self-explanatory inclusion.
"but that's fine you know they should be sometimes you need that for a good pop hit."
This quote highlights the importance of having fun, campy elements in successful pop hits, supporting the playlist's theme.
"Karma as a cat that's all I can say about this."
A metaphor is used to describe the nature of Taylor Swift's songs, likening them to karma, unpredictable and impactful.
"they're too honest to tell the person but they're fine to release some millions of fans and you be in existence forever."
This quote reflects on the paradox of Taylor Swift's fountain pen songs, which are too personal for direct confessions but shared widely through her music.
"most of my lyrics fall into this category they're modern, personal stories written like poetry."
Taylor Swift describes her fountain pen songs as personal, poetic stories, indicating the prominence of this style in her work.
"this is her normal self really the the fountain pen and then quill is her exploring a more poetic side to things."
The speakers discuss Taylor's natural alignment with the fountain pen style and her exploration of different facets of songwriting with other styles.
"and they are we try to include so vivid we try to include all of the albums once again because I think that's an important thing to do."
The quote emphasizes the effort to represent all of Taylor's albums in the playlist to showcase the evolution of her vivid storytelling.
"it's literally pausing that moment and describing every single detail of it."
This quote captures the essence of Taylor's fountain pen songs, which freeze a moment in time and describe it with intense detail.
"The one that we have decided to include is 'Dress.' I think the dress holds itself up in this category just because of that amazing bridge that bridge. Yes, 100% that bridge holds it and even things of like carving um carving your name in my bed post and the specific like how specific it is spilling wine in the bathtub very metaphorical at your buzz cut my bleached she us right there are."
The quote discusses the choice of including "Dress" from Taylor Swift's album Reputation in the context of songs with vivid and specific lyricism, highlighting the bridge and metaphorical language as key features that justify its inclusion.
"And I really do think we have picked out songs that aren't just like Poetic and what she described like as her very confessional lyricism which is her discography as a whole almost. But they are ones that give you that just that extra mile of description."
The quote emphasizes the selection process of songs that exemplify Taylor Swift's confessional and descriptive lyricism, suggesting that the chosen songs go beyond mere poetry to provide an additional layer of vivid description.
"And you're in love is the epitome of kind of um insanely descriptive and insanely Vivid lyricism because it's just you can just picture that whole relationship Flash before your eyes."
The quote praises "You Are In Love" as the epitome of vivid and descriptive lyricism, suggesting that the song's detailed imagery allows listeners to visualize the relationship it describes.
"Then we have a couple from red and obviously this one had to be here had to be here because again it's the one that she mentioned in the description of the whole thing all too well it has that red scarf and that's all you need to know really."
The quote discusses the inclusion of "All Too Well" from the album Red in the context of songs with strong, memorable imagery, specifically mentioning the red scarf as a central and iconic detail.
"I think many many if not all of them could be included in this playlist but the two that we really wanted to highlight especially Last Kiss. I mean thanks to Last Kiss we have like literally a date and a time that we celebrate as a thanks to this song so it had to be really it is the detailed song."
The quote highlights "Last Kiss" as a song worthy of inclusion due to its detailed and confessional lyrics, which include specific dates and times that have become significant to fans.
"This song like literally the description is songs I categorize in the style that sound like confessions scribbled and sealed in an envelope but but too brutal to ever send."
This quote explains the inclusion of "Tim McGraw" in the context of songs that sound like personal confessions, aligning with the theme of confessional and vivid lyricism.
"Taylor has described as if my lyrics sound like a letter written by Emily Dickinson's great grandmother while sewing a lace curtain that's me writing in the quill genre."
The quote references Taylor Swift's description of the Quill playlist, which is intended to include songs with lyrics that feel like they were written in a bygone era, suggesting a disconnect with the inclusion of "Anti-Hero."
"I love the idea of the chapters I really do. And I understand that they were made for playlisting purposes and to get streams on those albums to kind of replace their Originals... But when you're going to add some like four songs that make so much sense and then you just add a random one that had not wasn't really like didn't have as many streams at that point. And you just add it in there that gets me."
The quote reflects the speakers' mixed feelings about Taylor Swift's thematic playlists, praising the concept but criticizing the execution when it seems to prioritize streaming over thematic consistency.
"I think the it's just it's interesting how even Taylor while creating this playlist recognized that."
This quote emphasizes Taylor Swift's self-awareness in her songwriting evolution and her intentional shift in style that aligns with the quill pen metaphor.
"I guess some of the lyrics that just Cowboy like me come on now you hang from my lips like the gardens of Babylon with your boots beneath my bed forever as sweet as G I've quoted this lyric many a time before and I will in the future it's just one of the best ones."
This quote exemplifies the intricate and poetic nature of the lyrics in "Cowboy Like Me," which is indicative of the quill pen style of songwriting.
"I think Fountain I definitely fit in another one that I can't believe was left off of this list is the Lakes I know it is the Poetry song it's about poetry."
This quote highlights the recognition that "The Lakes" is a song deeply rooted in poetic tradition, which aligns with the quill pen metaphor.
"I think it's very interesting to especially analyze this last category because of what what's coming basically."
This quote captures the anticipation and curiosity regarding how Taylor Swift's future work will build upon the quill pen metaphor and her evolution as an artist.
"I just think for me like in debut like I am a advocate for debut I love debut. and I constantly stand behind how strong the songwriting is. yes. but there is for me there is no reference of quill like you know."
This quote reflects on the evolution of Taylor Swift's songwriting from her debut album to her later work and acknowledges the strength of her early songwriting, despite it not fitting the quill pen metaphor.
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This quote wraps up the episode, thanking listeners for their engagement and encouraging them to interact with the podcast through various platforms.