In this episode, hosts Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal, along with guest David Mock, author of "The Qualcomm Equation," delve into the remarkable story of Qualcomm, a company that pioneered the wireless industry with its innovative CDMA technology and strategic patenting. Qualcomm's journey from government contracting to becoming the world's largest fabless semiconductor company is marked by a series of strategic decisions, including the creation of joint ventures with Sony and Nortel, the significant role of patents and licensing, and the pivotal moment when the US government allowed Qualcomm's CDMA to become a second standard. Despite facing lawsuits and competition, Qualcomm's foresight in Moore's law and the industry's evolution allowed it to dominate the market, with its stock soaring by 2621% in the year 2000. The episode also touches on Qualcomm's current challenges and opportunities as it navigates a landscape with emerging competitors and new markets like IoT and automotive.
"I walked in, and the first thing I saw was the bottom of the big crane boom arm with the weights. And I was like, why are there olympic weights here? And then I was like, oh, because we've got a professional boom arm camera. This is amazing." "I'm Ben Gilbert, and I'm the co-founder and managing director of Seattle based Pioneer Square Labs and our venture fund, PSL Ventures." "And I'm David Rosenthal. And I am an angel investor, based in San Francisco."
The quotes establish the professional setting and the hosts' credentials. David is impressed by the professional filming setup, while Ben and David introduce themselves and their roles in the tech industry.
"There's an incredible property of the universe where electromagnetic signals can be broadcast and travel through space at the speed of light to be received at a different point in the universe."
This quote explains the fundamental nature of electromagnetic signals and their ability to transmit information across space.
"The company most responsible for the mind-bending system of how it all works today is Qualcomm."
The quote highlights Qualcomm's significant role in developing the current wireless communication systems, setting the stage for an in-depth discussion on the company's contributions.
"Our huge thank you to the Solana Foundation for hosting us at Solana Breakpoint."
The quote reflects the hosts' appreciation for the opportunity to record the episode live and the support received from the Solana Foundation.
"Pilot both sets up and operates your company's entire financial stack."
The quote describes Pilot's services, emphasizing the company's role in managing financial operations for startups, which is relevant for the podcast's entrepreneurial audience.
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The quote encourages listener engagement and community building, promoting the podcast's interactive platform.
"They develop a novel technique to defeat RF frequency jamming by using frequency hopping."
The quote explains Lamar's contribution to wireless communication technology, which is a precursor to modern spread spectrum techniques.
"A mathematical theory of communication, which defines a bit. The new field of information theory ushers in the digital era for the world."
The quote summarizes Shannon's pivotal role in establishing the foundation for digital communication and information theory.
"He and his family move out to UCSD. And while he's out there, he continues doing his contracting work with defense contractors and JPL and the US space program."
The quote connects Jacobs' academic background and professional work to his eventual role in the founding of Qualcomm.
"Linkabit's first project is doing the satellite communication system for Walmart."
The quote reveals an unexpected connection between Linkabit, a company associated with advanced communications, and Walmart's early adoption of satellite technology.
"They made absolutely the right decision in selling Linkabit then."
The sale of Linkabit was pivotal as it led to the creation of Qualcomm, a decision that, in hindsight, was the right move given the opportunities it opened up in the wireless industry.
"Cellular had just been an innovation... we were actually going to put cell towers so that you only needed to communicate with your local tower and that could be relayed."
The quote highlights the innovative step from long-distance communication to a localized cellular approach, which was a significant advancement in the industry.
"They are first-rate academics... but they're also, especially Irwin, like incredible business people, market analysts."
The founders' combination of academic brilliance and business acumen positioned them well to identify and capitalize on opportunities in the cellular market.
"They name it Qualcomm Quality Communications, which is short for quality communications."
The name reflects the company's commitment to delivering high-quality communications solutions, which was a core aspect of their strategy.
"There's a way to sort of like bite and try and eat the whole elephant here."
This metaphor captures the enormity of the task Qualcomm faced in establishing a presence in the cellular network industry and the strategic decisions they had to make.
"It is one of the most brilliant strategic executions of entering a market period writ large, ever."
The quote emphasizes the exceptional strategic approach Qualcomm took in entering and succeeding in the competitive telecommunications market.
"So they stay with Maccom for five years and then there's a leadership change at Macom."
This quote marks the transition from the founders' time at Macom to the founding of Qualcomm and the strategic decisions made in the early days of the new company.
"They developed this, and they freaking patent it in 1986."
The patenting of CDMA technology was a strategic move that secured Qualcomm's position in the market and laid the foundation for future success.
"They raise $3.5 million in funding. As part of that, they bring the product to market at the end of 1988, as Omnitrax."
The funding and successful product launch provided the financial stability and business foundation for Qualcomm to advance its core technology in the cellular industry.
"The US cellular Telecommunications Industry association, or CTIA... released performance requirements for the planned upgrade of the US's cellular networks from the analog one g networks to the new digital 2g networks."
This quote highlights the industry shift that created an opportunity for Qualcomm's CDMA technology to become the standard for the next generation of cellular networks.
"So in Europe it was like mandatory like the TDMA, which DSM was based on, mandatory. That's it. And plenty of other countries mandatory in the US is like, this is the industry standard and we recommend that any mobile carrier follows it. But if you want to do your own thing, as long as it meets the performance spec, you can use whatever technology you want."
The quote highlights the difference in regulatory approaches between Europe and the US regarding mobile technology standards, with Europe enforcing mandatory standards and the US allowing more flexibility.
"And importantly, standards bodies are decoupled from government agencies. So the FCC allocates spectrum. But these standards bodies are literally just industry."
This quote emphasizes that while government agencies like the FCC allocate spectrum, standards bodies are purely industry-driven and play a crucial role in setting industry standards.
"They're totally undaunted they go and they're like, great. We can go pitch individual carriers on using CDMA as a technology."
The quote shows Qualcomm's undeterred approach to promoting CDMA, despite it not being the mandated standard, and their strategy to individually pitch carriers on its benefits.
"This is the thing. So there's one benefit that actually matters. All the others are nice to have on a feature spec, there's one benefit that is going to allow them to be super sure they're going to win, which is that it is like an order of three to five x more efficient to operate."
The quote explains the key economic benefit of CDMA that Qualcomm believed would ensure its success: the ability to operate more efficiently, leading to a competitive advantage for carriers using the technology.
"In real time, you're going to modify a signal based on what you're currently hearing from that signal."
This quote captures the skepticism around Qualcomm's ability to manage signal strength in real-time, a technical challenge they overcame with innovative solutions.
"They patent every single piece of this. Every single piece. Unreal."
The quote highlights the extensive patenting strategy Qualcomm employed to protect their CDMA technology, ensuring control over its intellectual property.
"South Korea for a time was, I think, close to 40% of Qualcomm's revenues because the whole country, and it was one of the most advanced mobile countries, all just using Qualcomm."
The quote illustrates the impact of Qualcomm's international expansion, particularly in South Korea, where government support for CDMA resulted in substantial revenue for the company.
"Yep, yep, and, yep, we make all that."
This quote reflects Qualcomm's assurance to carriers that they could provide every component needed for a CDMA network, from infrastructure to handsets.
"Today Qualcomm's total revenue is what, close to 40 billion annually, I think. Of which 85% is their semiconductor business."
The quote highlights the importance of the semiconductor business to Qualcomm's overall revenue, demonstrating the success of their strategic decision to enter chip design.
"Both the US Federal Trade Commission and Apple sue Qualcomm for basically the same thing, saying that Qualcomm was using its market position as the dominant smartphone modem supplier to force manufacturers into paying excessive fees."
This quote summarizes the core issue leading to the lawsuits against Qualcomm, highlighting the conflict over Qualcomm's licensing practices and market power.
"Apple could make up up to one third of Qualcomm's handset chip revenue."
This quote emphasizes the financial significance of Apple's business to Qualcomm, illustrating the dependency on a major customer like Apple.
"Qualcomm asked Apple to speak out against WiMAX, which is a competing technology."
This quote reveals Qualcomm's strategic moves to maintain its market position by influencing partners like Apple to publicly oppose competing technologies.
"They asked Apple for $7.50 per phone sold, which comes to about $2 billion a year, plus an additional eight to ten when they were going to raise prices later."
This quote details the financial terms of Qualcomm's licensing agreement with Apple and the substantial revenue it generated for Qualcomm.
"Apple does use Qualcomm cellular modems, which started in 2011. And there was just one year where they used Intel."
This quote highlights Apple's reliance on Qualcomm for cellular modems, except for a brief period when they switched to Intel due to the ongoing legal disputes.
"Qualcomm is that they think Apple is going to succeed at this. It's just going to take a couple of years."
This quote suggests Qualcomm's awareness of Apple's ambitions to develop its own modem technology and the potential impact on Qualcomm's future revenue from Apple.
"Nuvia was founded by former Apple Silicon people, including the chief architect of the A series chips."
This quote explains the strategic importance of Nuvia's acquisition, bringing in expertise to help Qualcomm compete in new markets and with industry leaders like Apple.
"Qualcomm today has a $120,000,000,000 market cap, which two things, one, that's astonishing, that's impressive."
This quote acknowledges Qualcomm's impressive market valuation and its success as a technology pioneer.
"They're the largest fabless semiconductor company in the world. Bigger than Nvidia, but a way lower market cap than Nvidia."
This quote compares Qualcomm's position in the semiconductor industry to that of Nvidia, noting the discrepancy in market cap despite Qualcomm's larger revenue.