In a candid discussion about emotional management, Speaker A reflects on societal pressures to either suppress or overindulge in emotions, while recognizing personal tendencies to inadvertently manifest stress through physical symptoms and behaviors. Speaker B, a mental health professional, emphasizes the importance of approaching emotions with curiosity rather than judgment and advocates for a gradual, supportive unveiling of feelings, particularly in therapy. They highlight the deceptive nature of quick fixes like binge-watching or eating, which provide immediate relief but lead to long-term detrimental cycles. The conversation also touches on the changing landscape of male engagement with mental health, the power of word-of-mouth in therapy success, and the universal need for human connection or self-reflection as initial steps to address unresolved issues.
"Um, society has a role to play in telling us how to manage the emotions we feel when we go through life."
This quote highlights the influence of societal norms and expectations on emotional management.
"Which doesn't seem to be possible with, like, deep emotions. Actually seems to be that you're just compartmentalizing it in the back room, and it's going to erode your brain from subconsciously."
This quote suggests that ignoring deep emotions may lead to negative mental health outcomes by causing subconscious stress or damage.
"But that feels like it can be a bit too consuming that I might not get out of bed in the morning if I really sit and wallow in my emotions."
This quote illustrates the concern that fully embracing emotions could lead to an inability to function in daily life.
"Yeah, and actually, it's quite sort of complex work."
This quote underscores the intricate nature of working with emotions, especially in a therapeutic setting.
"And so we'll never kind of advise people to just open the floodgates and allow everything in."
This quote conveys the caution exercised by therapists in dealing with clients' emotions, emphasizing the need for control and preparation.
"So for anyone who feels like they, for example, kind of shut down emotionally and sort of block it out, you want to open up gradually to things and open up gradually to emotions that feel maybe less dangerous or less sort of overwhelming in small ways, in supported ways as well, so that, you know, you can manage it and it's not going to completely be overbearing."
This quote advises a measured and supported approach to confronting emotions, especially for those who tend to shut down or block out their feelings.
"But I guess on a kind of day to day level, lots of people don't even recognize that they're blocking."
This quote points out the common lack of self-awareness regarding emotional blocking behaviors in daily life.
"And so often it's hidden in the behavior. People will say, yeah, I'm fine with emotion, but I smoke 50 a day. And it's a kind of, what's the function of this and that and the other."
This quote highlights that people may not be aware of the true reasons behind their behaviors, such as smoking excessively, which could be a coping mechanism for underlying emotional stress.
"It's really key that there's no judgment there, because it's something that we all do. It's human."
The speaker emphasizes the importance of not judging oneself for these behaviors, as they are a common human response to stress and discomfort.
"But my body, as the famous book goes, held the score. My body would tell me, even if my conscious mind wouldn't admit it, my body would tell me."
This quote refers to the concept that the body can manifest signs of stress and emotion that the mind is not consciously acknowledging, indicating a disconnect between mental and physical awareness.
"I always thought I was invincible. I always thought I was some tough guy. And I think people followed me. Well, I hope not, but I think they saw me as that, as being this kind of, like, mentally perfect, resilient character."
In this quote, the speaker reflects on their past self-perception as a strong and resilient leader and acknowledges that this image may have influenced how others perceived them, despite their own stress-related behaviors.
"I remember going through a pattern where I was just eating crap again. And I thought, why am I doing oh, shit? Yeah, because of that thing you've not addressed that's playing on your mind every time you wake up."
This quote highlights the speaker's realization that their unhealthy eating habits were a response to an unresolved issue, demonstrating how behavior can signal deeper problems.
"Men are the worst at this. I mean, so they say they're the worst at talking about how they feel because of the stigmas and stuff."
The speaker is referring to the common perception that men struggle with expressing their emotions, attributing it to societal expectations and stigmas.
"It's enabled people to start having a conversation that they wouldn't dream of having face to face with people."
The quote suggests that social media has provided a space for individuals to discuss mental health issues more freely than they might in face-to-face interactions.
"And so actually all of my work was based on word of mouth."
This quote indicates that the speaker's therapy practice grew through clients recommending their services to others, highlighting the importance of personal endorsements in the mental health field.
"And I think that's a bit of the shift of that stigma that people are going, oh yeah, I went through that, or something similar, go and try that,"
The speaker observes that as people talk openly about their experiences with mental health challenges and recovery, it helps to change the conversation and reduce stigma surrounding these issues.
"And if people are sat at home and there's something that they know they haven't addressed, that's playing on their mind that they're thinking about a lot often, and trying to just kind of compartmentalize and not address, what would you say to those people because they might be seeing the behavioral symptoms of not addressing that thing?"
This quote highlights the problem of unaddressed issues causing mental preoccupation and potential behavioral symptoms.
"Well, I guess some people will go to therapy because they'll have access to that. Others won't even consider it or have access to it for whatever reason, and I think whatever the situation, human contact and human connection is everything."
Speaker B acknowledges the varying accessibility of therapy and underscores the significance of human connection in addressing personal issues.
"That's a lot of what happens in therapy, actually, is people will come in with a feeling, oh, felt this awful thing, and then we'll look at, okay, what led up to that. Let's go back a week and let's work to it. What made you vulnerable to that? And then equally, what came after? What did you do? Did it make things worse? Did it help?"
This quote describes the therapeutic process of dissecting the timeline and context of emotional experiences to understand behavioral patterns.
"A lot of those things that we end up doing habitually are the things that work instantly, and they're addictive because they work instantly, right. It's going to the fridge or grabbing the wine or whatever it is, that they're addictive because they give us instant relief, but in the long term, they keep us stuck."
Speaker B explains how certain behaviors offer immediate comfort but ultimately lead to a cycle of dependency and prevent long-term healing.
"And actually, the things that tend to work in the long term are hardest in the moment, like sitting with it and feeling it and using skills to get yourself through it."
The quote emphasizes the difficulty but necessity of confronting emotions directly and developing coping mechanisms for sustainable mental health.