In this episode of the Bigger Pockets podcast, Alex Hormozi shares his entrepreneurial journey from management consultant to multimillionaire business owner. Starting with a single gym and sleeping on the floor, Hormozi rapidly expanded to six locations, then pivoted to gym turnarounds and a licensing model for scalability. His business acumen led to the creation of a supplement company, Prestige Labs, and a software company, Allen, which were later sold for significant sums. Now, with his holding company acquisition.com, Hormozi oversees a portfolio generating over $150 million annually. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the importance of focusing on one's customer, the necessity of hiring talent over building it, and the pitfalls of "cute" business strategies that distract from the fundamental work of entrepreneurship. His approach to business growth is methodical, highlighting the stages of scaling from six figures to nine, and the shifting challenges at each level, from establishing product-market fit to hiring the right team members to drive growth.
"It's usually one founder that's breathing life into this thing with lots of little helpers. It's a genius with a thousand hands." "And most businesses aren't worth anything because they're not businesses. They're leveraged jobs."
These quotes emphasize the importance of a central, visionary founder and the distinction between a true business and a self-employed job disguised as a business. Recognizing this difference is crucial for aspiring entrepreneurs.
"All right, I'll give the world's shortest play by play milestones. So, I was a management consultant, went to Vanderbilt, graduated, did defense contracting for two years. Really didn't like it. Got my top secret clearances."
This quote provides a brief overview of Hormozi's career trajectory, highlighting his shift from a traditional career path to entrepreneurship.
"Yeah, I definitely did a whole bunch of things that I probably wouldn't do again and probably wouldn't have done it necessarily in that order, et cetera."
This quote reflects on the nature of Hormozi's business decisions, noting that while not all were optimal, they were part of a synergistic growth strategy that led to success.
"No, 100%. That's how I remembered the lessons."
This quote underscores Hormozi's method of learning from his failures by documenting them, which has contributed to his business acumen and success.
"I think it's a big pile of gobbledygook, man."
This quote expresses Hormozi's skepticism towards the multitude of trendy business practices that are often promoted without substantial evidence of their effectiveness.
"In order for me to do more, I must do more. Anything that is not me doing more is detracting from my ability to do."
This quote emphasizes the importance of direct action in increasing productivity and suggests that activities not directly related to work can be counterproductive.
"All diets are sham, and it basically comes down to calorie deficits."
Alex Hormozi simplifies dieting to the core principle of calorie deficits, suggesting that other dieting methods are unnecessary complications.
"Don't be cute, right? He was like, just do more of what you're doing."
Alex Hormozi's mentor advises against overcomplication and suggests focusing on doing more of what already works.
"There is a part of them that is making them vulnerable to that. Because like you said, they don't want to do the work."
This quote discusses the psychological reasons why people fall for get-rich-quick schemes and the avoidance of the necessary hard work.
"We have activation points that we want to track. We know that if someone does XYZ by day 30 or whatever, the likelihood that they stay, or as said, goes up threefold, whatever."
Alex Hormozi discusses the importance of tracking specific customer behaviors to predict and enhance their success, which in turn informs marketing strategies.
"So you have one way of getting customers. You sell one thing to one specific type of person. That is all you need to do to get to six figures."
Alex Hormozi outlines the simplicity of reaching six figures in business by focusing on a single product, customer avatar, and marketing channel.
"So you know how to sell one product to one avatar, on one channel in a consistent manner."
To reach a million dollars, consistent and predictable customer acquisition is key, as explained by Alex Hormozi.
"At that point you're at one, two, 3 million ish a year. One to three, you have to build out your core team."
After reaching a few million in revenue, the next step is to build a core team to support further growth.
"Now, at this point, we transition objectives to increasing lifetime value per customer."
Alex Hormozi emphasizes the importance of shifting focus from initial sales to improving customer lifetime value for sustainable scaling beyond three million in revenue.
"Where if you just sell a single product that might not have as much LTV as you would want, as you scale or put more in, your margins begin to compress."
This quote highlights the problem of diminishing returns on investment as a business scales with a single product, emphasizing the importance of product lifecycle value (LTV) and margin management.
"Far more aggressively on the acquisition side, which is the easiest moniker that I use, is more better new."
This quote encapsulates Hormozi's approach to business scaling, focusing on enhancing existing strategies and exploring new opportunities for customer acquisition.
"At 30 ish, the founders typically will start feeling constrained because they are the juju behind the entire business."
This quote reflects the bottleneck that founders face as their business grows, necessitating a shift from founder-centric operations to a more distributed leadership model.
"So there's three variables. So you've got, got, you've got media and then you've got the content of whatever you're marketing."
This quote outlines the decision-making process involved in choosing a marketing channel, highlighting the need to consider the method, platform, and media content as key variables.
"Entrepreneurship have elements of loneliness, and I think that it changes. I think in the beginning it's a lot harder because you're really competitive."
This quote acknowledges the emotional challenges entrepreneurs face, particularly the loneliness and competitive nature that can be prevalent in the early stages of building a business.
"I'm a huge proponent of alternative education. I love the education businesses."
This quote expresses Hormozi's support for non-traditional education businesses that provide valuable skills, underscoring the importance of meeting the demands unmet by formal education.
"It's grown because people are seeing on social media all these other people making money, and they're like, this is possible." This quote reflects the positive influence of social media in demonstrating the potential for success in entrepreneurship.
"The downside is, obviously, whenever you have upside, you've got an equal, opposite reaction of people who are scamming people and things like that." This quote acknowledges the negative consequences of increased visibility, such as the rise in scams.
"I think that the difference between a scam and somebody who is trying to deliver is intention." The quote emphasizes the importance of intention in distinguishing between scams and legitimate business efforts.
"And I think it was because the way that I asked was, I didn't ask." Alex didn't directly ask for favors but instead showed his capabilities, which led to a more positive response from potential mentors.
"I would do work ahead of time to help them with their business." This proactive approach to networking involved offering assistance before asking for anything in return.
"If there was anybody worth anything, because winners give back." The quote suggests that successful people are often willing to help others who show initiative and drive.
"And so all of that, I rewrote so many scripts for guys in that community because it was the only thing I was good at." Alex used his existing sales skills to contribute value to a community, which in turn helped him learn other skills.
"And that's how I learned." The quote indicates that hands-on collaboration and problem-solving were key to Alex's learning process.
"No one can do something better than you. So, a lot of times what happens is people hire people who've never done the thing and then are like, oh my God, I'm better than this person." Alex discusses the common pitfall of underestimating others' abilities and the importance of hiring experienced talent.
"You can't see every email that goes out, you can't approve every post, you can't review every sales call, you can't make every video that's going to be in your course." The quote highlights the necessity of delegation as a business scales beyond the capacity of a single individual.
"And so the reason that things are not happening is because the people are not doing the things." This quote underscores the importance of having the right people in place to execute business functions effectively.
"Everyone thinks they're a good judge of character until they get judged by the people they hire." Alex quotes his wife to emphasize the challenges of hiring and the consequences of poor judgment in this area.
"So anyways, I could talk about that longer, but fundamentally, that's how you scale." Alex concludes the discussion on hiring by summarizing its fundamental role in business scaling.
"And I'm just stuck in sort of this treadmill that I can't get out of right now." The speaker expresses the frustration of being caught in a cycle of hiring and training without seeing the desired results in business scaling.