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Taylor Swift's surprise release of voice memos discussing the themes of her "Tortured Poets" playlist series has sparked excitement among fans. The memos delve into the emotional stages captured in her songs, from the denial and delusion of ignoring red flags in relationships, as heard in "Lavender Haze," to the anger and catharsis in tracks like "Bad Blood." Swift also touches on bargaining through desperate negotiation in songs like "Soon You'll Get Better," and the depths of depression in "Champagne Problems." The conversation speculates on the personal connections to Swift's life, particularly her break-up with Joe, and anticipates how these playlists might reflect the structure of her upcoming album. Fans eagerly await more insights with the release of "Tortured Poets," dissecting the voice memos and song choices for deeper understanding of Swift's emotional journey.

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Introduction to Taylor Swift's Voice Memos

  • Taylor Swift has released new voice memos discussing her music.
  • The voice memos are specifically about the "tortured poets department."
  • This is the first promotion for the "tortured poets department" since the ARs tour went on hiatus.
  • Taylor's voice memos provide insights into the themes of her songs, including denial and delusion.

"Taylor Swift just dropped some brand new voice memos all about the tortured poets department."

This quote introduces the topic of the new voice memos released by Taylor Swift, which delve into the deeper themes of her music related to the "tortured poets department."

Red Flags and Denial in Songs

  • Taylor Swift's playlist includes songs about being caught up in the idea of something and missing red flags.
  • The playlist suggests themes of denial and delusion in relationships.
  • The songs "Lavender Haze," "Snow on the Beach," "Sweet Nothing," "Glitch," "Betty," "Willow," and "Cruel Summer" are mentioned.
  • "Lover" is notably included in the red flag section, indicating a theme of love causing harm or difficulty.

"This is a list of songs about getting so caught up in the idea of something that you have a hard time seeing the red flags possibly resulting in moments of denial and maybe a little bit of delusion."

This quote summarizes the theme of the playlist, which revolves around being blinded by an idea or emotion, leading to missed warning signs and self-deception.

Interpretation of "Lover" and Other Songs

  • The inclusion of "Lover" in the red flag section changes its interpretation from a love story to a warning about potential issues.
  • There is a discussion about how people might perceive "Lover" differently now, especially those who have used it as their wedding song.
  • "Cruel Summer" is recognized for its anxious tone, adding to the theme of challenging emotions in relationships.

"She put 'Lover' in the red flag section, the denial section. I love you, it's ruining my life."

This quote highlights the reinterpretation of "Lover" within the context of the playlist, indicating a complex relationship between love and personal turmoil.

Playlist "You Don't Get to Tell Me About Sad"

  • The second playlist is titled "You Don't Get to Tell Me About Sad," which focuses on anger.
  • It includes songs written from a place of anger, such as "Vigilante," "Bad Blood," and "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together."
  • The playlist suggests that writing songs is a healthy way for Taylor Swift to process and move past anger.

"These songs all have one thing in common: I wrote them while feeling anger over the years. I've learned that anger can manifest itself in a lot of different ways, but the healthiest way that it manifests itself in my life is when I can write a song about it, and then oftentimes that helps me get past it."

Taylor Swift explains that the common thread among the songs in the playlist is the emotion of anger and how songwriting serves as a constructive outlet for her.

Song Categorization and Emotional Complexity

  • Taylor Swift discusses the challenge of categorizing songs into specific playlists.
  • The playlist includes a variety of songs that could fit into multiple emotional categories.
  • "Exile" is mentioned as an interesting inclusion since it was written with Joe Alwyn yet still fits the theme of anger.

"It's got to be hard too for her to scatter these out through five playlists because I feel like they could fit in a lot of different boxes."

This quote reflects on the difficulty of assigning songs to specific thematic playlists due to the complex emotions they represent.

Insights into Song Order and Fan Interpretations

  • The order of songs in the playlists is thought to tell a story or convey a message.
  • The discussion includes speculation about whether the playlists offer insights into Taylor Swift's personal experiences or songwriting process.
  • Fans analyze and interpret the playlists, looking for deeper meanings and connections between songs.

"William Bowery followed by 'Elicit Affairs' so dang also I'm sure the order like plays a little story too you know also I'm wondering if this is also giving insight because like how the fans all..."

This incomplete quote suggests that the order of songs in the playlists might be deliberate, potentially offering fans additional insights into the narratives or emotions behind the music.

Five Stages of Heartbreak

  • Taylor Swift's album potentially follows the five stages of heartbreak.
  • Apple Music notes and Swifties' theories suggest the album is divided into sections representing different emotional stages.
  • Swifties' agreement on a theory attracts Taylor Swift's attention, indicating her engagement with fan theories.
  • There is a sense of rivalry between Apple Music Swifties and Spotify Swifties regarding content access.

"guess the whole five stages agree. blah. blah blah five stages of heartbreak. and now it's like is this how the album's going to be like chunked out it's like you got your red flags you got your anger whatever else there is..."

This quote introduces the idea that Taylor Swift's album may be structured around the concept of the five stages of heartbreak, with fans speculating on this thematic organization.

"which is right like the the note that Apple music like put in about like the swifties started to compare it to this and when swifties agree upon a theory Taylor takes an interest..."

This quote suggests that Taylor Swift takes note of fan theories that gain traction among her fanbase, and it highlights the interactive relationship between the artist and her fans.

"it's like her Tik tok's all over again she's watching. yeah that's. so funny."

The quote reflects on Taylor Swift's engagement with her audience, particularly on social media platforms like TikTok, where she observes and interacts with fan content.

"no we do not everything comes out on Apple come on as a Spotify stand."

This quote captures the competitive dynamic between users of Apple Music and Spotify, with fans on each platform vying for exclusive content from Taylor Swift.

The Third Stage: Bargaining

  • The third playlist titled "Am I Allowed to Cry" corresponds with the bargaining stage of grief.
  • The playlist includes songs that encapsulate the feeling of desperation and making deals in an attempt to improve situations.
  • Lyrics reflect the emotional bargaining process and the intuition that things may not turn out as hoped.

"the third playlist is am I allowed to cry which corresponds to the albatross and the note says the third stage is bargaining where we often negotiate asking questions of the universe and ourselves in an attempt to feel better..."

This quote explains the theme of the third playlist, which is associated with the bargaining stage of grief, and how it includes songs that reflect the emotional state of trying to negotiate with oneself or the universe.

"this playlist takes you through the songs that I've written when I was in the bargaining stage times when you know you're trying to make deals with yourself or someone that you care about you're trying to make things better you're oftentimes feeling really desperate because oftentimes we have a sort of gut intuition that tells us things are not going to go the way that we hope which makes us more desperate which makes us bargain more."

Taylor Swift describes the emotional depth of the bargaining stage, detailing the desperation and the intuitive sense that things might not work out, which is reflected in the songs on the playlist.

Interpretation of Songs

  • Fans interpret songs differently based on their knowledge of Taylor Swift's personal life and public events.
  • The song "The Great War" initially thought to be about Joe Alwyn's support during the Kim Kardashian and Kanye West conflict, may have a different meaning.
  • The playlist includes songs that reflect bargaining, such as "Cornelia Street," where dramatic statements about love and loss are made.
  • The song "Renegade" by Big Red Machine, featuring Taylor Swift, is reinterpreted post-breakup with Joe Alwyn, revealing new layers to its lyrics.

"but yeah now you're saying it might have a totally different meaning upon first listen that was my instinct too ever since they broke up like I've thought that song was totally different I haven't related those in like a year."

This quote reflects on how the meaning of the song "The Great War" has evolved for fans after Taylor Swift's breakup with Joe Alwyn, suggesting that songs can take on new interpretations over time.

"but she always says dramatic stuff like that in like every song especially when she was with Joe it was always like if you leave it's over clearly not true your song Afterglow o dang that makes okay maybe this playlist does have a chance."

The quote discusses the dramatic nature of Taylor Swift's lyrics, particularly in relation to her relationship with Joe Alwyn, and how these dramatic expressions contribute to the bargaining theme of the playlist.

"oh I just realized this she put Renegade in here the song that she did with the national like or with Big Red Machine. okay that song has so many lyrics that people have been like wo again like when it came out."

The inclusion of "Renegade" in the playlist is highlighted, with the speaker noting that the lyrics have sparked discussion and interpretation among fans, especially in the context of Taylor Swift's personal life.

Emotional Resonance in Songwriting

  • Taylor Swift's songs often reflect intense emotions and personal experiences.
  • Songs like "Better Man" resonate with listeners, especially after a breakup.
  • Taylor Swift is recognized for capturing feelings of sadness and depression in her music.
  • Her songs serve as a form of comfort and relatability for fans.
  • Writing music is a way for Taylor Swift to process emotions like loneliness and hopelessness.
  • The act of songwriting can be a step towards healing and moving past difficult feelings.

"the lyrics per usual right it's just again in the context of the breakup of her and Joe it's like all of these you know better man written long before Joe. but when she sang that live on the ays tour after the breakup dude anyone who has gone through a breakup better man just applies no matter what because even if you broke up with him."

This quote highlights how Taylor Swift's song "Better Man" gains new meaning and emotional depth in the context of her own breakup with Joe. It suggests that her music has a universal appeal that connects with listeners' personal experiences, particularly those involving heartbreak.

"the fourth playlist old habits diey screaming those were the lyrics from the Black Dog the fourth stage is depression sadness is something Taylor's captured in a song as well as anyone ever has take the radiant longing of champagne problems for example."

This quote describes how Taylor Swift's music captures the essence of sadness and depression, with songs like "Champagne Problems" resonating deeply with listeners during challenging times, such as the global pandemic.

"I'll write a song because I feel lonely or hopeless and writing a song feels like the only way to process that intensity of an emotion and while these things are really really hard to go through I often feel like when I'm either listening to songs or writing songs that deal with this intensity of loss and hopelessness usually that's in the phase where I'm close to getting past that feeling."

Taylor Swift explains her songwriting process as a therapeutic way to deal with intense emotions. She suggests that creating music about loss and hopelessness is part of her coping mechanism and often signifies a turning point in her emotional recovery.

Exploration of Personal Growth and Breakup

  • Taylor Swift's music reflects her journey through personal growth and the aftermath of her relationships.
  • Her songs are a testament to the different stages of grief and recovery.
  • The music serves as both a personal outlet for Swift and a source of empathy for her audience.
  • Fans speculate about the timeline and details of Swift's personal life and relationships based on her music.

"God dear reader maroon you're losing me ding ding ding. wait okay. wait you go I'm like are you thinking what I'm thinking she said in the voice memo that it's like she usually makes these songs when she's like almost P it."

This quote shows fans discussing the hidden meanings and timing behind Taylor Swift's songs, particularly "Maroon" and "You're Losing Me," and how they may relate to her emotional state during the songwriting process.

"I really hope tortured poets just like really tells us what happened between December 2021 when she ate those raisins and recorded you're losing me and the start of the SS tour in March of 2023 when we find out that they broke up like what happened."

The fans express their anticipation for Taylor Swift's album "Tortured Poets" to reveal more about her personal experiences and the events that occurred between specific dates mentioned, hoping for insight into her breakup and emotional journey.

Speculation on Taylor Swift's Discography and Themes

  • Fans analyze Taylor Swift's discography for themes and hidden messages.
  • There is speculation about the stages of grief represented in her albums.
  • Swift's choice of song titles and order is often thought to be intentional and revealing.
  • Fans engage in deep discussions about the meanings and implications of her music.

"Yeah remember we were like oh could the could there be a fifth edition to make up the stages of grief or is the fifth stage like midnights was really the first one."

This quote shows fans theorizing about whether Taylor Swift's albums correspond to the stages of grief and trying to piece together the narrative she may be telling through her music, including the potential significance of her album "Midnights."

"and Castle's crumbling my one of my favorites from the speak now of Vault tracks final one. I can do it with a broken heart so this one was not a variant."

The fans discuss their favorite tracks and note the significance of the song "I Can Do It With a Broken Heart," pointing out that it is not a variant, which could imply its unique place within Swift's body of work.

Acceptance and Moving Forward

  • Acceptance is the fifth and final stage of dealing with loss or heartbreak.
  • Finding acceptance allows for making room for more good in life and moving forward.
  • Loss can lead to gaining new things or experiences.
  • Taylor Swift's songs like "You're on Your Own, Kid" and "Closure" are examples of material that embody acceptance.

"The fifth and final stage is acceptance when we fully come to terms with our loss and maybe even find peace."

This quote outlines the concept of acceptance as a stage in the emotional journey where one makes peace with loss.

"These songs represent making room for more good in your life, making that choice because a lot of time when we lose things we gain things too."

This quote highlights the positive aspect of acceptance, where loss is counterbalanced by new gains and opportunities.

Song Analysis and Interpretation

  • Taylor Swift's songs are analyzed for their themes related to acceptance.
  • Songs from albums like "1989 Taylor's Version" and "Evermore" are mentioned.
  • "The One" is interpreted as a song of acceptance rather than bargaining.
  • "August" is seen as coming to grips with a relationship that was never fully realized.
  • "Invisible String" being on the same playlist as "The One" is discussed as confusing but possibly indicative of Taylor's personal acceptance.

"The one is very much acceptance like thought I saw with the bus stop I didn't though."

This quote interprets "The One" as a song about acceptance, recognizing a past relationship is over.

"August is like you were never mine so they're coming to grips with like I was all wrapped up in you."

"August" is analyzed as a song where the singer accepts the ephemeral nature of a summer love that was never fully theirs.

Personal Resonance with Playlists

  • The speakers discuss how they resonate with different songs and playlists based on their personal emotional journeys.
  • "Midnight Rain" and "Clean" are mentioned as personal favorites.
  • One speaker prefers songs that embody sadness and anger, while the other resides in the "petty space" rather than acceptance.
  • The importance of music in helping move through tough times is acknowledged.

"I resonate more with the sad stuff to get me through and I don't think I ever transition to the like acceptance playlist because I've you know I just like move on and."

This quote reflects the speaker's personal connection with music that represents sadness, and their difficulty transitioning to songs about acceptance.

"Yeah the petty space. yeah. that's where I live I don't really live in the acceptance."

The speaker identifies with songs that reflect a more "petty" or non-accepting stance towards past relationships.

Anticipation for "Tortured Poets"

  • The speakers express excitement for the upcoming release of "Tortured Poets."
  • They appreciate the promotion through playlists and voice memos.
  • There is a call to action for the audience to subscribe and comment on their own preferences.

"These voice memos have me so excited I have been waking up like every day counting down the days to the release of tortured poets."

The speaker is expressing anticipation for the new album, indicating the effectiveness of the promotional material in building hype.

"She's out of hiding she's back."

This quote conveys the return of Taylor Swift to the public eye and the excitement it generates among fans.

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