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https://youtu.be/vJFKtqDJ1Kc?si=5KUO5WA_TTtOLY4oIn this episode of the Swifty podcast, hosts Rachel and Bethany delve into Taylor Swift's relationship with ex-boyfriend Joe Alwyn and the speculation surrounding her upcoming album "Tortured Poet's Department." They discuss the personal and artistic influences on Swift's work, including her friends' divorces, past relationships, and the impact of her own romantic experiences. The conversation touches on the couple's decision to keep their relationship private, the dynamic of their breakup, and how Swift's music often serves as a reflection and timestamp of her personal life. The hosts aim to provide Swifties with context for understanding potential references in the new album, hypothesizing that it will heavily feature songs about the breakup, similar to Swift's previous works about other exes like Joe Jonas and Harry Styles.
"I think tolerated is about I have no grounds for this like I don't know it at all. but I think it's because all I know is that I think she's had multiple friends who got divorced. but I know Abigail got divorced oh that's right."
The quote suggests that Rachel is speculating on the meaning behind Taylor Swift's song "Tolerated," connecting it to the experience of a friend's divorce, specifically mentioning Abigail.
"We are all speculating that this is the Joe breakup album. amongst other things but the songs about their breakup are mostly going to be on this as she has done with Joe Jonas and Harry Styles Etc."
The quote indicates the speakers' belief that Taylor Swift's new album will primarily feature songs about her breakup with Joe Alwyn, similar to how previous albums have addressed past relationships.
"Joe is probably about to surpass that when tortured po comes out because Joe has a lot of Joe probably is already leading that already because he has so many love songs about him."
The quote conveys the idea that Joe Alwyn may become the ex with the most songs written about him by Taylor Swift, surpassing Jake Gyllenhaal, especially with the release of the speculated breakup album.
"I think at this point in her life she had gone through reputation like she was currently living it and this was something that she wanted to hide. and I just think that he helped her with I think it is 100% what she needed at the time."
This quote reflects the speakers' view that Taylor Swift's desire for privacy during her relationship with Joe Alwyn was influenced by her experiences during the "Reputation" era and was beneficial for her.
"Gone were the days of Paparazzi photo ops of Swift's days with Tom hson and gooey Instagram photos like the ones she posted with Calvin Harris would no longer populate her social media."
The quote points out the change in Taylor Swift's approach to publicizing her relationships, moving away from the public displays that characterized her past relationships with Tom Hiddleston and Calvin Harris.
"Swift and Owen were dating at this point. it was so under the radar that PR press coverage of the premiere didn't even mention his name."
This quote emphasizes the low-profile nature of the beginning of Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn's relationship, to the extent that Alwyn was not mentioned in press coverage despite being involved in the events discussed.
"After her 1989 tour and all the attention Taylor received, she learned that she had to be more protective of her personal life. and she and Joe decided early on to keep their private life private."
The quote underscores Taylor Swift's decision to maintain privacy in her relationship with Joe Alwyn as a response to the intense public scrutiny she faced during and after her 1989 tour.
"Like you have to decide that you want to grow together exactly like you are either going to decide that you're parting ways or that you are like committed to making it work."
This quote emphasizes the importance of making a conscious decision about the future of a relationship, whether it means staying together and working through differences or acknowledging that it's time to go separate ways.
"I don't think that job forced her to like keep everything private like we said like I think that is something she really needed at the time."
The speaker suggests that the need for privacy in the relationship was not imposed by external factors but was a personal requirement for one's well-being at the time.
"But we don't like we don't know like what they went through together really."
This quote highlights the disconnect between the public's perception and the private realities of a high-profile relationship, where much of what the couple experiences remains unknown to outsiders.
"This is the closest they've ever come to an Instagram official moment."
The speaker comments on the significance of a social media post that hints at a relationship without explicitly confirming it, demonstrating how such moments are scrutinized and interpreted by the public.
"I'm aware people want to know about that side of things... but I really prefer to talk about work."
This quote reflects a deliberate choice to maintain a boundary between one's professional life and personal relationships, despite public curiosity.
"I think they were like artsy together and stuff like that but probably brought that side out and like almost allowed that to flourish and like kind of nurtured that part of her."
The speaker suggests that the relationship provided a nurturing environment for creative expression and personal development, indicating the positive impact a partner can have on one's artistic journey.
"Someone's private life is by definition. private. No one is obligated to share their personal life."
This quote asserts the right to privacy, emphasizing the distinction between what is shared publicly and what is kept private, regardless of public interest.
"Swift is supporting him without talking about their relationship in a way that we have not seen him do."
This quote emphasizes Swift's method of supporting Alwyn publicly without directly discussing their private relationship, highlighting their mutual respect for privacy.
"Swift and Alwyn attend the Golden Globes but separately of course."
This quote notes the couple's attendance at the same event while maintaining their individual professional identities, showcasing their approach to balancing public appearances and private life.
"Swift skipped the Grammy's Awards in favor of attending a BAFTA Afterparty with her bow."
This quote illustrates Swift's prioritization of supporting Alwyn's career over her own industry's major event, signifying the depth of their commitment to each other.
"Report swirled that getting engaged to Alwyn was not far off."
The quote reflects the public speculation and excitement surrounding the possibility of Swift and Alwyn's engagement, despite no official confirmation from the couple.
"Once the album dropped fans began dissecting every song for hidden clues about the couple."
This quote captures the intensity of fan engagement with Swift's music, as they seek to understand her personal life through her lyrics.
"Our relationship isn't up for discussion."
Swift's quote conveys her clear stance on keeping her relationship with Alwyn private, establishing a boundary between her personal life and public persona.
"Joe's personality is great for Taylor. He's very calm and always very supportive."
This quote from a source close to the couple gives an external perspective on the positive influence Alwyn has on Swift, complementing their decision to keep the relationship out of the public eye.
"The couple is photographed on a private plane."
This quote notes one of the few public glimpses into Swift and Alwyn's life together, reinforcing their preference for privacy while acknowledging their connection.
"Swift celebrated Thanksgiving in London with Joe."
The quote highlights the couple's adaptation of cultural traditions to fit their international relationship, showing their commitment to spending time together during significant occasions.
"They both agree that for their relationship to keep working they want to keep things more quiet."
This quote suggests that Swift and Alwyn have had discussions about how to manage their relationship in the context of their public lives, indicating a mutual understanding and agreement on privacy.
"I think her doing her re-records led to 'Midnights' being able to sit some of those songs back in other eras a little bit."
The quote implies that Swift's creative process, including revisiting past work, influences her current music and potentially offers insight into her personal journey and relationship with Alwyn.
"I think she probably was able to look back at these other versions of herself like with her re-recordings and be like I kind of miss pieces of that."
The quote expresses the sentiment that revisiting past work through re-recordings can lead to a newfound appreciation for previous stages of one's life and career.
"Who's basically always going to be more successful than you."
This quote highlights the disparity in success between Taylor Swift and her partners, which can create pressure on the partner to feel equally important or successful.
"To love someone in all forms is that is true love."
This quote captures the essence of true love as accepting and loving a person throughout all the changes and phases of their life.
"It has given her so much Clarity on what is important to her and like what she loves and like what she's not going to like sacrifice."
This quote speaks to the personal insights and priorities that can become clear after a relationship ends.
"Taylor considers Joe one of the only safe constants in her life."
This quote emphasizes the stability and support Joe Alwyn provided Taylor Swift, particularly when her public image was under scrutiny.
"They've talked about marriage so this is co has started happening and they Swift and Owen have talked about their future and marriage."
This quote implies that discussions about a long-term future, including marriage, were part of Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn's relationship during a period of global uncertainty due to COVID-19.
"We loved Co Taylor."
The quote reflects the appreciation for the art and personal growth that Taylor Swift experienced during the COVID-19 quarantine period.