In a candid discussion, the host emphasizes the importance of sticking to the basics in business, as illustrated by a seasoned CEO's advice: "Don't be cute." He argues that entrepreneurs often complicate their strategies when simplicity and consistency yield better results. Using examples from conversations with successful entrepreneurs and his own marketing team, he demonstrates that refining and repeating proven methods trumps innovation for those not yet outperforming their mentors. The host also touches on the significance of optimizing the most impactful elements of a sales funnel, like the headline, to drastically improve conversion rates. Ultimately, he advocates for replication of successful actions and adherence to established systems until one has the expertise to innovate effectively.
A lot of times I feel like we need to be reminded more than we need to be taught. And this is one of those instances.
The quote emphasizes the value of recalling and reinforcing existing knowledge over acquiring new information in certain situations.
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What I want to talk to you about today is a saying that we said over and over and over again in our community and some real world applications to it. And that saying is, don't be cute.
This quote introduces the key principle that will be explored in the discussion, which is to avoid overcomplicating things unnecessarily.
And he was like, hey, don't be cute. He has this Long island accent. And I was like, I don't really know what that means. He's like, all right, so you know when you play in backyard football... And so that story has always stuck with me because it's so true in business...
Speaker A narrates the CEO's story that illustrates the principle of "Don't be cute" through a relatable example, highlighting its relevance to business.
But I feel like so many of the entrepreneurs that I talk to and the ones that we work with, a lot of times, myself included, we try and be cute and we try and get fancy when it's usually the fundamentals that breed success.
The quote reflects Speaker A's observation that entrepreneurs frequently overlook the effectiveness of basic, proven strategies in pursuit of novel, complicated ones.
And one of the biggest telltale signs I think of somebody who's newer is that they do not repeat successful actions.
Speaker A points out a critical error often made by less experienced entrepreneurs: failing to replicate actions that have previously yielded positive results.
"Until you make more than the guy who taught you that system, you do the system exactly the way that it was outlined."
This quote advises beginners to follow an established system strictly until they surpass the success of the person who created it, emphasizing the importance of learning from those who are more experienced.
"We've been trying a lot of stuff. And finally we decided to just do it the way that you had outlined it. And we're actually seeing a lot better results."
The quote reflects the realization by entrepreneurs that following the advised methods led to improved outcomes, underscoring the effectiveness of sticking to the prescribed strategy.
"We've already tested over 100 different pieces of this conversion process."
This quote demonstrates the depth and breadth of testing involved in optimizing a conversion process, highlighting the meticulous approach to refining a business system.
"What do you think the chances are that if they change something, it's going to be better? Probably low, right?"
The quote suggests that after extensive testing and optimization, the probability of new changes leading to better results is low, emphasizing the reliability of the optimized system.
"My rule of thumb for me is, until I'm doing as well or better than the person who taught me this thing, do not change it."
This quote sets a personal guideline for the speaker on when it is appropriate to modify a learned system, stressing the importance of achieving a certain level of success before making changes.
"Replicate before you get fancy, right?"
The quote succinctly advises to master the replication of a successful system before trying to enhance or modify it, suggesting that foundational work precedes innovation.
"And it's repeating successful actions."
This quote emphasizes the significance of identifying and consistently implementing actions that have been proven to lead to success in entrepreneurship.
"But once I feel like the numbers are optimized, I probably won't tweak that very much, because now it's a successful action and I want to repeat it as many times I possibly can."
The speaker is highlighting the moment when they will stop making changes to the conversion process. Once it is optimized, they plan to maintain it as is and focus on scaling the successful strategy.
"Real quick, guys, you guys already know that I don't run any ads on this, and I don't sell anything."
This quote clarifies that the speaker's podcast is not monetized through traditional means such as ads or product sales, and thus, they depend on other forms of audience support.
"And the only ask that I can ever have of you guys is that you help me spread the word so we can help more entrepreneurs make more money, feed their families, make better products, and have better experiences for their employees and customers."
The speaker is requesting the audience's help in sharing the podcast to achieve a broader impact on the entrepreneurial community.
"But if you're coming up from these things from scratch, what I can tell you is that after having now done this, I've done this optimization process a zillion times in my life now, the headlines and the messages, the top, literally, the first one to two things that someone reads are going to have the biggest swing on the needle."
The speaker shares their experience, emphasizing the importance of headlines and initial messages in the optimization process for conversions.
"And so, if you are trying to optimize something, if you're way below where you need to be, don't even worry about anything below the fold."
This quote advises focusing on the top part of the page, as it is more influential in driving conversions than the content below the fold.
"And I can't tell you the amount of times we're literally just deleting everything below the fold got us better throughput on those types of pages."
The speaker shares a counterintuitive insight that sometimes removing content below the fold can actually improve the performance of a page in terms of conversions.
"And so just recently I changed the headline of our landing page for agencies who are going to be partnering with us for our Allen software. And we three x'd the throughput of that one page simply by changing the headline."
This quote emphasizes the impact a single change in the headline had on the landing page's performance, tripling its effectiveness.
"We five x the throughput by removing a headline that was there. We didn't even add anything. We literally removed something that was there, which was, hey, you finished this process. The next step is this."
This quote highlights how removing an existing headline led to a fivefold increase in throughput, suggesting that less can be more when it comes to guiding users through a process.
"We need to repeat successful actions when they're there."
This quote underscores the necessity of identifying and repeating actions that have previously led to success.
"Why would you not at least just duplicate, replicate their process and what they're doing first, and then when you surpass or at least match them, then and only then you will have the understanding of the process to improve it."
Here, the speaker advises that one should first replicate the successful processes of others before trying to innovate, ensuring a solid understanding of the fundamentals.
"Don't be cute, don't try and get fancy, don't run the super crazy, whatever play just look at the fundamentals."
This quote advises against overcomplicating things and stresses the importance of sticking to the basics.
"Repeat successful actions. We need to be reminded more than we need to be taught."
The speaker reiterates the importance of repetition over constantly seeking new teachings, reinforcing the concept that practice makes perfect.
"Hope your marketing is converting like crazy money and leading you to financial wealth and freedom, only to realize that it is empty and that in the process you will turn most of the people that who know you secretly against you."
The speaker offers a nuanced view on the consequences of financial success, suggesting it can lead to a sense of emptiness and envy from others.
"I'd rather be envied than potato."
This quote humorously expresses the speaker's preference for achieving success and being envied over not being successful at all.