In this business-focused conversation, Speaker A, with interjections from Speaker B, delves into the challenging decision of whether to retain or dismiss an employee. They emphasize the importance of cultural fit and shared values over skill sets in small business hiring, advocating for the dismissal of those who undermine authority or don't align with the company's vision. Speaker A shares their zero-tolerance approach, citing personal experience and advice from Bart Miller that firing often leads to finding better replacements. They distinguish between character issues, which warrant immediate dismissal, and performance issues, which may require re-onboarding or additional training. Speaker A outlines a detailed process for effectively communicating expectations, training, and providing feedback to improve employee performance. They conclude by stressing the significance of running a business like a high-performance team, not a family, and the necessity of setting a strong tone of authority to foster a productive work environment.
"And so the decision that I'm going to hopefully help you make is about that employee that you're not sure about, right."
This quote sets the stage for the discussion, indicating that Speaker A aims to help listeners make a decision about employees they are uncertain about.
"I've never fired someone and not found someone better."
Speaker A conveys Bart Miller's perspective, which reassures that firing an employee often leads to finding a better replacement.
"And so this kind of reflects back to the zero tolerance mentality of how you need to run the business or your department or whatever it is."
The quote explains the necessity of a strict policy regarding performance and behavior in a business setting.
"If someone questions your authority or disrespects you or disrespects you in front of your team or is not bought into when you want to make changes, things like that, they're gone."
The quote specifies behaviors that are unacceptable and warrant firing an employee due to their detrimental effect on the business environment.
"So there's really three pieces. It's the communication piece, it's the skill piece, and then there's the motivation."
Speaker A breaks down the components that can affect an employee's performance, which are essential to consider when deciding whether to retrain or fire an employee.
And so when you're hiring for a small business, you're really just looking for personality traits, right. You're looking for a cultural fit.
This quote emphasizes the importance of personality and cultural fit over specific skills when hiring for a small business.
And one of the key components to looking for cultural fit is not saying, I'm going to find people who are just like me.
The speaker highlights the pitfall of hiring people too similar to oneself, which can lead to redundancy and inefficiency.
There are people who are very quiet, who are very reserved, who don't like selling, who have the same values as I do, right?
The quote illustrates that people with different personalities can still share the same core values, which is more important than having similar personality traits.
If you have these values, you can speak them to people and people will either say, like, yeah, I'm down for that, or like, no, I'm not.
Clear communication of values helps in determining if potential hires are a good fit for the company culture.
If they're not a cultural fit, they're an asshole. They undermine you, they talk bad behind your back, you want to relaunch a new program and they're whispering to the clients like, nah, it's not going to be that good.
This quote points out the negative impact of employees who do not align with the company culture and actively undermine it.
Gone, right? And you need to do that to set the fucking tone, right? Because this is your business and people need to know that.
The speaker stresses the need for decisive action in removing those who do not fit the culture to establish the right tone for the business.
Now, that being said, it doesn't mean being a dick, but there is a tone that needs to be set.
The speaker clarifies that setting a tone does not mean being harsh but ensuring that authority and business values are respected.
The only way this grows is through word of mouth.
This quote underscores the significance of word of mouth as the primary method of growth for the podcast.
My only ask is that you continue to pay it forward to whoever showed you or however you found out about this podcast that you do the exact same thing.
The speaker encourages listeners to share the podcast, contributing to its growth and creating a ripple effect of support within the entrepreneurial community.
"Layla says the biggest myth of communication, the biggest myth in communication is that someone thinks it occurred, right. You say something, you think you communicate it, and they have no idea what you're talking about, right?"
This quote emphasizes the disconnect that can occur in communication, where the speaker assumes the message has been conveyed, but the listener remains unclear. It highlights the need for confirmation that the communication has been successful.
"And so how do you tell them what you want them to do? It is telling them, and it is always documenting what you want them to do in writing. So for us, if it's not written, it doesn't count."
This quote underlines the practice of documenting directives and expectations to avoid misunderstandings. It suggests that verbal communication alone is insufficient and that written follow-up is necessary for clarity.
"And so if you have a system like Asana or something like that, you manage tasks in, then it would even further follow up into tasks that they need to be done."
The quote suggests the use of task management systems as an extension of communication, providing a platform for assigning and tracking tasks, which helps in ensuring that the communicated tasks are understood and actioned upon.
"And typically people are undertrained. They're over expected and undertrained."
This quote points out a common issue in the workplace, where employees are expected to perform without being given sufficient training, leading to a gap between expectations and performance.
"Most people have no fucking clue what they're supposed to be doing. They have no clue. They got hired for this job. The boss talked to them for, like, 30 minutes, and then they just went back to their desk and were like, okay, so I think he wants me to."
This quote illustrates the confusion new employees often face due to insufficient onboarding and communication. It emphasizes the importance of investing time in explaining job responsibilities and providing guidance to prevent uncertainty and underperformance.
If you just give them a clear path to win, then they will.
This quote emphasizes the importance of giving employees a clear set of goals and objectives to work towards, which can foster motivation and job satisfaction.
If you have this person in your business that you are not sure about, if you don't know, you know, let them go.
This quote suggests that if there is doubt about an employee's fit within the company, it is better to part ways.
Their role has probably changed several times since they've been working with you because you've evolved as an entrepreneur.
This quote highlights the dynamic nature of roles within a growing business and the need for updates to reflect these changes.
That's where you first give them the recording so they have an understanding. Then you present, you give recordings, then they do a ride along with you, then you do a ride along with them.
This quote outlines a step-by-step process for training employees in new skills or roles, starting with providing recordings for initial understanding.
I've never let someone go and not found someone better. And I will say that productivity of a team typically always increases after someone is let go.
This quote suggests that removing underperforming employees can be beneficial for the overall productivity of the team, as it allows for the introduction of more capable individuals.
If you're like, we're a family here, you need to get that out of your lexicon because you pay someone, right?
This quote challenges the notion of a business as a family, arguing that the professional relationship based on performance and payment should be prioritized.
Many of us in fitness played for teams. A lot of us played for high level teams. And you've known what a good coach is like, and you know what a bad coach is like.
This anecdote draws a parallel between sports teams and business teams, suggesting that similar principles of good coaching and team management can lead to success in both areas.