In this episode of Acquired, hosts Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal revisit their interview with Hamilton Helmer, the mastermind behind the "Seven Powers" framework, which details the strategies that lead to enduring company success. As a celebration of their LP feed going public, they release a remastered version of their original interview with Helmer, offering insights into the creation and application of his framework. Helmer shares his journey from a PhD in economics at Yale to strategy consulting at Bain & Company, eventually founding Strategy Capital. He discusses the importance of identifying and leveraging a company's source of power—be it counter-positioning, network effects, or switching costs—to maintain a competitive edge and ensure long-term profitability. The episode also features a sponsorship from Pilot, a startup-focused accounting firm, and teases future content involving Helmer's strategic expertise.
"Welcome to this special episode of Acquired, the podcast about great technology companies and the stories and playbooks behind them. I'm Ben Gilbert, and I'm the co-founder and managing director of Seattle based Pioneer Square Labs and our venture fund, PSL Ventures." "And I'm David Rosenthal. And I'm angel investor, based in San Francisco."
The quote introduces the hosts and the focus of the podcast on technology companies and their success strategies.
"David and I had a realization. We talk about seven powers on every single episode, literally every single episode. And in March of 2020, we actually interviewed Hamilton Helmer to talk about the framework, but we estimate that only about 2% ever actually heard that since it was an LP episode at the time."
The quote explains the hosts' decision to release the remastered interview with Hamilton Helmer, highlighting the significance of the "seven powers" framework in their discussions.
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The quote introduces Pilot as a sponsor, emphasizing their services and role in helping companies focus on their core competencies.
"So I was very interested. But then when I finished my Ph.D., in those days, it was really odd for somebody with a Ph.D. to go into business. Ph.D. in Econ. I mean, you think Econ, it's about the business world. It's not highly theoretical, mostly math."
The quote reflects on Hamilton Helmer's unconventional path from academia to the business world, highlighting the theoretical nature of economics compared to the practical aspects of business.
"In 94, I came out here and I was attracted by the economic vitality, but it's also a family decision. My wife just absolutely adored California from her prior experience."
The quote explains Hamilton Helmer's decision to move to California, emphasizing the region's economic opportunities and personal reasons.
"So persistence. And in the future says that if you can understand the issues that drive persistence, you're going to understand what drives value."
The quote highlights the key idea that understanding the factors leading to persistent performance is crucial for evaluating a company's value.
"My ideas are my babies, and the greatest compliment for me is other people using them and finding them useful. So I wanted to get it out there, but I'm not a natural writer, and I really hadn't published before anything."
The quote reveals Hamilton Helmer's passion for sharing his strategic insights and the personal significance he places on others finding value in his work.
"You don't do breakthrough stuff with market surveys. You have to understand what the need is and then invent. And if you really meet the need, then it's useful."
The quote highlights the critical approach to innovation that does not rely on market surveys but on a deeper understanding of customer needs. If an innovation genuinely meets a critical need, it has the potential to be useful and successful.
"There are two necessary and sufficient conditions for power. There's a benefit... But the thing that's rare is when you do that, and it's material... But also it satisfies the second condition, which is that not just there's a benefit, but there's a barrier."
This quote explains that for a company to have power in the market, it must offer a significant benefit over competitors and also have a barrier that protects it from competitive threats.
"It's completely empirical... And so far those seven have covered everything that I've seen."
The quote underscores the empirical nature of Helmer's framework for the seven powers, which is grounded in extensive practical experience and observation.
"Counter positioning occurs if a company comes up with a new business model and challenges often a powerful incumbent with it."
This quote defines counter positioning as a strategy where a new entrant challenges an established player with an innovative business model that the incumbent cannot easily adopt.
"One is that it's a net negative... It's very often true, I'd say almost always true, that there's cognitive bias involved."
The quote explains that counter positioning can be detrimental to incumbents due to the lucrative nature of their current models and cognitive biases that blind them to the potential of new models.
"Just asserting them gets you zero 1% of the way of understanding what's really going on."
This quote emphasizes that merely claiming network effects exist is insufficient; one must deeply understand their complexities to gauge their true impact on business value.
"Slack has network effects, but also switching costs."
The quote illustrates that even modern technology companies can leverage switching costs as a source of power, adding another layer to their competitive advantage.
"I mean, one is that in general, it creates a win lose situation with your customer." "So if you look at EDA and electronic design automation tools, there are libraries that are associated with those. But if you move from one tool company to another, the translation never works very well." "Right. But then another subtlety is that, remember, you can only monetize that if there's a repeated economic interaction."
These quotes emphasize the strategic implications of switching costs, the challenges they pose in customer relationships, and the necessity of repeat interactions for monetization.
"Yeah. So if a SaaS model has really good switching costs, boy, does that help." "I actually think the way that these companies are financed are predicated on switching costs as a primary source of power."
These quotes highlight the synergy between SaaS business models and switching costs, and how they influence the financing and valuation of such companies.
"Do you think that in general, companies that are highly software centric in how they approach a business, that for an incumbent that isn't that way, that for them to adopt has to blow up their model so much that it's counterpositioned." "My answer would be yes. Against technology enabled businesses, because they can tech enable just as easy as these new entrants can start."
These quotes discuss the strategic concept of counter positioning and the challenges incumbents face when competing with software-centric startups.
"So what happens in the takeoff phase of a business? Think about what's going on. There's more customers than product." "If somebody is several years ahead of you and it's one of the middle phase types of power, which is most common in tech, network economy, scale economy, switching costs, those are the three most common ones. If it's one of those, then your size matters."
These quotes explain the dynamics of the takeoff phase in business and the competitive advantages of being ahead in the market with certain types of power.
"A your thoughts on cornered resources in general, but in particular, something that just really spun around in my mind reading this is lots of people in tech, especially lots of VCs, think that executive talent and founders are a cornered resource." "They had two businesses. They started as the memory company. They started with the best of the best. I mean, they."
These quotes discuss the concept of cornered resources and the role of leadership in tech, highlighting that while leadership is important, it is not a guarantee of business success without other sources of power.
ard was against it. Their head of sales was adamant that this would never turn into anything that was. And he was a sharp guy. I don't mean to mean adamant that this would never turn into anything. Andy Grove was dead set against it, I believe is correct. And Bob Noyce went out and kind of talked to people, and this is the nature of invention. High uncertainty bars very large bandwidth, deep insights. And he finally said, no, I really think this eventually is going to go somewhere. And then the chairman of the board, what was his name? I can't remember.
The quote illustrates the challenges and skepticism faced by innovators within their own organizations and the critical role of key figures, like Bob Noyce, in overcoming these challenges through conviction and communication.
No, no, I think there's some subtleties to that story. I just have my own view about this, and I talk about this a little bit in the book. You have to come up with great stories for good animated films. The brain trust itself was insufficient to guarantee that, and the marker for that is how many directors had to be replaced that were into their projects. And so then you go back and then ask what was in common with the directors that weren't replaced. And with the exception of Brad Bird, who's a whole story by himself, brilliant guy, the answer is that it was this core group of people that worked together that came up with the original Toy Story movie, and that they were sort of a band of brothers, and together they had an experience of what it meant to create really compelling animated films.
The quote explains that while the brain trust was critical, the unique experience and teamwork of the original Toy Story creators were key to Pixar's continued success.
Yeah, exactly. And I'm a huge fan of Iger's. I mean, I think as a strategist, and he made three critical Disney decisions all of which I thought were brilliant. And I think his Pixar decision was he realized that at the heart of Disney was animated films, and that even though the price investment banker would say this is really expensive, he realized that actually they had to revive that or the whole Disney franchise was at risk. And so it was worth a much bigger price.
The quote highlights Bob Iger's recognition of the importance of animated films to Disney's brand and his willingness to invest heavily in Pixar to secure this cornerstone of the company's success.
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This quote describes Crusoe's business model and its focus on providing AI-specific cloud services powered by alternative energy sources for improved performance and cost-efficiency.
So it's kind of what you would imagine. I mean, you're in the thick of it. It's a rapidly advancing technical frontier that's seeming to change the possibilities in a whole space. So I was mentioning to you before I started, genetics is very interesting to us. Of course, we have no insight into therapeutics, but that whole field, you can tell that the incredible cost decline of sequencing and other aspects of it creates the possibility of doing things that were never cost justified before or time justified.
The quote conveys the idea that opportunities for power arise when advancements in technology lead to new possibilities and applications that were previously not cost-effective or feasible.
So thinking that through of how to extend power where the power umbrella fits, is something that's really interesting. And it's important economically, of course, because getting power is really hard. And if there any place that you can take advantage of your. And it's sometimes unusual. Think of Disney going into theme parks. Back to Disney again. Here we are.
The quote underscores the strategic importance of understanding how a company's existing power can be extended into new markets or applications, using Disney's foray into theme parks as an example.
Well, first of all, I would love to find another power. So far, I haven't. So every company that we deal with faces this question eventually. Is that okay? If I'm successful, I've established a company with power. What's next? So, act two. And what I'm trying to figure out is, do we have anything that's interesting and valuable to say about that?
This quote indicates the author's interest in exploring the next steps for companies that have established power and how they can continue to grow and leverage that power in their business strategies.