In this episode of the 20 minutes VC, host Harry Stebbings celebrates the podcast's growth and welcomes Henry Davis, president and COO of the beauty brand Glossier. Henry shares his journey from a VC at Index Ventures to the operational side at Glossier, highlighting the brand's digital-centric approach to customer engagement and its aspirations to redefine the beauty industry. They discuss the challenges of hiring diverse talent, the evolving role of Amazon in e-commerce, and the importance of building a brand that resonates beyond product transactions. Henry also touches on Glossier's international expansion, driven by customer demand and digital community engagement, as they aim to become a global consumer goods conglomerate. The episode also features partnerships with Naturebox and Lisa, promoting health and well-being in the new year.
You are listening to the 20 minutes VC with me, Harry Stebbings. I want to start today with a huge thank you to all of you for your support. Three years ago yesterday I started the 20 minutes VC from my bedroom in my family home. Today we have listeners in 191 countries, over 20 million downloads, and a fantastic team of five behind the scenes here.
Harry Stebbings expresses gratitude to his listeners and shares the growth of his podcast, highlighting its global reach and the team behind it.
I'm thrilled to welcome Henry Davis, president and COO at Glossier, a New York brand that has taken the beauty world by storm. To date, they've raised close to $35 million in vc funding from some of the best in the business, including past guests on the show, Kirsten Green at Forerunner Index Ventures IVP, and our friends at Thrive.
Harry introduces Henry Davis and his role at Glossier, mentioning the company's success in raising venture capital.
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Harry discusses the podcast's partnerships with Naturebox and Lisa, emphasizing their offerings and alignment with healthy living.
I always had this itch that I wanted to run something and run with something... And so the great thing about venture capital as well is it exposes you to so many different kinds of business and different stages of business.
Henry explains his desire to be involved in operations and how venture capital provided him with broad exposure to various businesses.
It's very important to know what your risk tolerance is... I think there are ways that it can be very risky, particularly if you do it as your first job out of university or college.
Henry speaks about the importance of understanding and managing risk when making the leap into entrepreneurship.
I think there absolutely is a paradox, and I think it's always about for me... Remember, I'm a sort of business-minded entrepreneur who came to someone else's idea to help realize that.
Henry discusses the balance between careful risk assessment and the passionate commitment required in entrepreneurship.## Awareness of Potential Outcomes
"You don't have to have mapped out a plan b, but you have to have some kind of idea about what the not perfect outcome could look like."
This quote emphasizes the importance of entrepreneurs being cognizant of various possible outcomes, not just the ideal scenario.
"Branded e commerce basically means companies that sell direct to consumers largely through digital channels."
Henry Davis defines branded e-commerce as companies selling directly to consumers, highlighting the shift in how products are marketed and sold.
"The purchase point and the use of the product is just a percentage of that customer's engagement with that brand and what the customer is buying into."
Henry Davis explains that the brand experience extends far beyond the actual purchase, emphasizing customer engagement at all levels.
"Amazon is the reason that ecommerce, in its entirety, is what it is today."
Henry Davis acknowledges Amazon's significant impact on the e-commerce industry, shaping customer expectations and market dynamics.
"I think what a lot of brands are about to find out with the advent of Amazon is that they don't have as much brand loyalty as they think they do."
Henry Davis differentiates between brand loyalty and product loyalty, suggesting that Amazon's model may challenge traditional brand relationships with customers.## Market Dynamics and the Future of Startups
"So cash is basically free right now. If you are an incumbent conglomerate in any space, you can borrow for next to nothing, and then you get tax shields on the interest anyway."
This quote explains the current low-cost borrowing environment for large companies, highlighting the financial incentives such as tax benefits.
"I think if you believe your competitive advantage as a startup is so great that the price that a corporate would be willing to justify paying for you doesn't compensate you for your opportunity cost, you should keep going."
Henry Davis emphasizes that startups with a strong competitive edge should consider their long-term potential before accepting acquisition offers.
"We believe that we're at the vanguard of the next channel."
Henry Davis suggests that Glossier is leading a new trend in distribution channels, which could lead to significant growth opportunities.
"Our whole following is based on our desire to engage with our customers and to listen to them and to understand what they want and where they're at."
Henry Davis explains that Glossier's success is rooted in its customer-centric approach and active engagement with its community.
"That's very much at the core of how we think about expansion is understanding what the customer wants you to do."
The quote reinforces the importance of customer feedback in Glossier's expansion strategy, emphasizing the company's responsiveness to customer needs.
"Number one is make sure your hiring processes and your assessments are fair."
Henry Davis points out the importance of fair hiring processes to ensure a diverse workforce.
"We focus very, very much on talent and capability over specific skills and experience."
This quote highlights Glossier's hiring philosophy, which prioritizes inherent talent and potential over predetermined skill sets.
"And then finally, I think, is a culture of acceptance."
Henry Davis emphasizes the need for a company culture that promotes diversity and inclusivity, which is integral to Glossier's ethos.## Inclusivity in Team Development
We will never be done as a company. We can always, always do better on all of these things.
This quote emphasizes the ongoing nature of striving for inclusivity and diversity within the company.
We ask about their approach to diversity, and we call them out when we get an answer about, yeah, we're trying to hire, but we just can't find the right candidates.
This quote reflects the proactive approach taken to challenge venture capital firms on their diversity hiring practices.
You're either saying in the entire world, there are not minority groups in this industry as clever as we are, which I don't think anyone's intending, or you're saying that you fundamentally have set up your recruiting processes in a way that excludes them.
Henry Davis is critiquing the excuses made by firms for not hiring diverse candidates, suggesting that the problem lies in the recruitment process.
I believe that the future of brand will be entirely digital.
Henry Davis expresses his belief that digital platforms will be central to brand identity and community building.
Anna Karenina. You should read it more than once.
Henry Davis recommends "Anna Karenina" for its deep exploration of human nature and passion.
I read a lot of Human Rights Watch.
Henry Davis values staying informed about human rights issues and supports the work of Human Rights Watch.
Our brand is our people, and our people are our brand.
This quote highlights the integral connection between the employees and the brand identity of Glossier.
We want in five years time to be the paradigm for what a good brand experience is.
Henry Davis outlines the ambition for Glossier to become a benchmark for excellent brand experiences within the next five years.
I hope the next five years for me and Glossier are very intertwined.
Henry Davis expresses his personal commitment to Glossier's success and his role in shaping its future.