Reputation (Taylor's Version) and Vault Track Predictions

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Cameron and Lisa, hosts of the Swiftly Spoken podcast, delve into the speculation surrounding "Reputation Taylor's Version" and its potential vault tracks. They discuss the intricacies of Taylor Swift's re-recording rights, predicting a possible 2023 release. The duo theorizes a range of topics from the album's promotion and aesthetic to the chronological order of future re-releases, considering how Swift might intersperse her larger albums with less prominent ones. They also explore the likelihood of new music videos for fan-favorite tracks and vault songs, the number of tracks in the vault, and the potential collaborations that could feature, citing past patterns and current relationships. Additionally, they consider the impact of the producers on the album's sound, particularly the involvement of Max Martin. Cameron and Lisa's conversation is a blend of informed predictions and hopeful musings on what Swift's re-recording era might bring.

Summary Notes

Introduction to Swiftly Spoken Podcast

  • Swiftly Spoken is a family Taylor Swift podcast focusing on her artistry.
  • Hosts Cameron and Lisa analyze Taylor Swift's lyricism, music videos, and albums.
  • The episode in question discusses theories about "Reputation Taylor's Version" and the "Reputation Vault."

"Hello and welcome to Swiftly Spoken, a family Taylor Swift podcast in which we analyze her artistry including her lyricism, music videos, and full album retrospectives."

The quote introduces the podcast and its focus on Taylor Swift's work, setting the stage for the episode's discussion on "Reputation Taylor's Version."

Taylor's Ability to Re-record "Reputation"

  • Taylor Swift can re-record "Reputation" starting from November 2022.
  • The ability to re-record is based on a contractual condition requiring a five-year gap from the original album release.
  • "Reputation" was originally released in November 2017, fulfilling the five-year requirement in November 2022.

"So from November of this year she will be able to record according to the terms of Taylor's contract with Big Machine which we can basically suppose is that it has to have been five years since the original release of an album for it to be then re-recorded."

This quote explains the contractual terms that allow Taylor Swift to re-record "Reputation," emphasizing the five-year gap requirement.

Speculation on the Release Order of Taylor's Version Albums

  • Taylor's re-recording strategy might involve spacing out the releases between major and smaller albums.
  • Fearless (Taylor's Version) and Red (Taylor's Version) have been released, with four albums remaining.
  • Cameron theorizes that the release order could alternate between big and small albums, ending with "Reputation" due to its significance.
  • Lisa discusses the idea of "Reputation" or "Debut" being the final re-release for a full-circle moment or a massive concluding release.

"So I've always imagined that you know she'd start off with a kind of big one... then do one that maybe isn't as large as the others... and then do rep and then end it with reputation again quite a massive album."

Cameron's quote outlines a potential release strategy for Taylor Swift's re-recorded albums, suggesting a balance between major and minor albums with a significant ending.

Theories on "Reputation Taylor's Version" Promotion and Aesthetic

  • The hosts speculate on how Taylor might promote "Reputation Taylor's Version."
  • They discuss the possibility of recreating the original album's iconic promotional tactics, such as the social media blackout and snake videos.
  • Lisa suggests a modernized approach to the blackout that doesn't erase past content but still signals the album's arrival.

"And I think that something in that kind of vein would be really nice to have that again... maybe post a bit like she did with folklore evermore um where she had six Instagram photos that made up one kind of big photo."

Lisa's quote suggests a promotional method for "Reputation Taylor's Version" that pays homage to the original campaign while adapting to current social media practices.

Theories on "Reputation Vault" Songs and Music Videos

  • The hosts theorize about potential "Reputation Vault" songs and their music videos.
  • They discuss Taylor's recent efforts to give fans what they want, such as music videos for popular songs that didn't get them during the original album's era.
  • "Getaway Car" is mentioned as a fan-favorite that could finally receive a music video.

"So we're kind of theorizing that maybe 'Getaway Car' might finally get the music video that everyone's hoping for."

This quote captures the hosts' speculation on potential music videos for "Reputation Vault" songs, specifically the much-anticipated "Getaway Car."

Possibility of Vault Collaborations

  • The hosts express hopes for collaborations on "Reputation Vault" songs.
  • They discuss the potential for Taylor to include previously unreleased collaborations or new ones in the re-recorded album.

No direct quote provided, but the theme highlights the anticipation for possible collaborations on "Reputation Vault" songs.

Album Cover Speculation

  • The hosts speculate on the album cover for "Reputation Taylor's Version."
  • They note that the covers for "Fearless TV" and "Red TV" came from the same photoshoot as the "Evermore" album.
  • They discuss whether Taylor prepared covers for other albums in advance or will have separate photoshoots, particularly for albums like "Speak Now" and "Reputation."

"I feel like especially with the kind of Speak Now and Reputation covers... I just don't think that they could have been done during the same time."

This quote reflects the hosts' uncertainty about whether Taylor Swift prepared all her re-recorded album covers in one photoshoot, given the unique aesthetic needs of each album.

Album Cover Aesthetics

  • Taylor Swift's album covers may continue to exclude the album title on the front cover, as seen with the album "Red" where the title appeared on a piece of jewelry.
  • The "Reputation" album cover, which features her name prominently, could potentially be redesigned in a creative way, possibly incorporating the title in a different form.
  • The "1989" album may use a Polaroid aesthetic for its cover, following the theme of the "Wildest Dreams" cover.
  • The "Debut" album cover is straightforward, featuring Taylor looking into a camera.
  • The "Speak Now" album cover is centered around the theme of a dress.
  • The "Reputation" album cover is unique in its design, featuring Taylor's name written all over her face, and the anticipation around its redesign is high.

"so i want i am intrigued to see whether i have no clue whether she will or won't or whether maybe she'll write maybe she'll write reputation all over her kind of face."

This quote highlights the curiosity and uncertainty regarding how Taylor Swift might redesign the "Reputation" album cover, considering its original distinctive style.

Merchandise and Promotion

  • The discussion suggests incorporating objects into the album cover photoshoot that could be turned into merchandise, such as a newspaper with Taylor's name and the album title, following the successful promotion of the "Red" album with the ring and scarf.
  • Merchandise becomes an iconic symbol of the album and serves as a promotional tool.

"yeah incorporate like some object into the photo shoot like she did with red and those are my two ideas for now."

This quote suggests replicating the marketing strategy used for the "Red" album by including an object in the "Reputation" album photoshoot that could become a piece of merchandise and a symbol for the album.

Reputation Vault Theories

  • The "Reputation" album originally had 15 songs, and there is speculation about the number of tracks that might be included in the vault version.
  • It is anticipated that the vault version of "Reputation" may have fewer tracks than the vault versions of "Fearless" and "Red," possibly around 21 songs.
  • There is debate over whether there will be a vault for "Reputation" at all, given the era's branding of "there will be no other explanation, there will only be reputations."
  • The vault releases add depth to the albums by providing additional songs that enhance the storytelling and connections between tracks.

"so what do you think do you think that they'll maybe reputation would be smaller in comparison to say fearless and red"

This quote discusses the potential size of the "Reputation" vault in comparison to previous vault releases, speculating that it might be smaller due to the original album's already substantial tracklist.

Vault Song Speculation

  • The inclusion of "I Don't Want to Live Forever" in the vault is considered unlikely because it was released under a different label, Republic Records, and not Big Machine.
  • "This Is What You Came For" is also considered unlikely for the vault due to its association with Calvin Harris and because it was not intended for the "Reputation" album.
  • There is curiosity about whether songs from a possible scrapped "bleacher" era of Taylor Swift might appear in the vault.

"the only other song from around that time that has been previously released that we know of and that could perhaps fit into a possible reputation vault is this is what you came for"

This quote discusses the potential inclusion of "This Is What You Came For" in the vault, acknowledging its controversial history and the unlikely chance of it being added due to its association with another artist and not being intended for "Reputation."

Vault Announcement Methods

  • Taylor Swift has used creative methods to announce vault tracks, such as unscrambling letters for "Fearless" and a word search for "Red."
  • There is anticipation for how she might reveal the "Reputation" vault tracks, with ideas like a heist theme that ties into the "Look What You Made Me Do" music video.

"when taylor announces the vote to us it seems like she's going to do it in a different way each time"

This quote reflects on the unique and engaging ways Taylor Swift has announced vault tracks in the past, creating excitement for how she will continue this trend with the "Reputation" vault announcement.

Taylor Swift's Music Creation During Bleachella

  • Taylor Swift was actively creating music around the time of Bleachella.
  • She released "This Is What You Came For," indicating her involvement in music writing during that period.
  • There is a theory that unreleased music from that time might appear in the Reputation Vault.

"I think that she was definitely making music around that time obviously with the release of This Is What You Came For that's a perfect example that she was writing stuff."

This quote suggests that Taylor Swift was engaged in the music creation process during the Bleachella period, as evidenced by her release of "This Is What You Came For," which could mean there is more unreleased music from that time.

Reputation Vault Tracks Theory

  • Fan theory speculates the existence of unreleased songs, like "Rip Off the Page," which might be included in the Reputation Vault.
  • "Rip Off the Page" was speculated to be a track from Reputation due to its background presence in a UPS promotional video.
  • The song's existence is debated, with some considering it a generic track used for the advertisement.

"Another fan theory about possible reputation vault tracks is a song called Rip Off the Page."

This quote introduces the fan theory about the unreleased song "Rip Off the Page," which was expected to be part of the Reputation album but never released.

Taylor Swift's Song Release Patterns

  • Taylor Swift has a history of using her songs in advertisements, which sometimes precedes their official release.
  • Songs like "How You Get the Girl" and "Style" were used in ads before appearing on an album.
  • "Ready For It" was used in an NFL promotion, which may have influenced fan expectations for "Rip Off the Page."

"But yeah like you said people kind of thought that it would be a track because of previous during the 1989 era with How You Get the Girl being on a Diet Coke advert and Style being on a Target advert."

This quote highlights the pattern of Taylor Swift's songs appearing in advertisements before their album release, which may lead fans to believe unreleased tracks like "Rip Off the Page" could follow the same pattern.

Kelsey Ballerini's "Roses" and Fan Speculation

  • Kelsey Ballerini's song "Roses" was mistakenly believed to be a Taylor Swift collaboration.
  • The speculation was fueled by the lack of new content from Swift at the time.
  • Fans often associate any related content with Taylor Swift, leading to misattributions.

"So maybe this is the case for Rip Off the Page maybe it's just a royalty-free song that people have just thought was Taylor Swift purely because it was in an advert about Taylor Swift."

This quote suggests that the song "Rip Off the Page" might be a case similar to "Roses" by Kelsey Ballerini, where fans mistakenly attribute a song to Taylor Swift due to its association with her in an advertisement.

Taylor Swift's Poetry and Songwriting

  • Taylor Swift's poems released during the Reputation era could be inspirations for new songs.
  • Her lead single "Look What You Made Me Do" originated from a poem, indicating a pattern of transforming poetry into music.
  • There is speculation that unreleased poems may become songs in the Reputation Vault.

"So maybe these could possibly be inspiration for new songs or well as we mentioned in one of our earlier episodes why she disappeared we analyzed the poem which was from the reb era it seems that sometimes Taylor writes poetry and then that poetry gets turned into songs."

This quote discusses the possibility of Taylor Swift's poetry serving as a source of inspiration for new songs, referencing the transition of her poem into the song "Look What You Made Me Do."

Lover Rejects as Potential Reputation Vault Tracks

  • Lover-era rejects might be repurposed for the Reputation Vault with different production.
  • The thematic similarities between Lover and Reputation suggest that some Lover rejects could fit into the Reputation narrative.
  • Taylor Swift's pattern of including songs written in previous eras on later albums supports this theory.

"So maybe possibly we might hear kind of some Lover rejects because obviously we will never actually hear them because Lover is not being re-recorded because obviously Taylor owns it."

This quote theorizes that songs rejected from the Lover album sessions could appear in the Reputation Vault, given Taylor Swift's history of revisiting past work for inclusion in new projects.

Taylor Swift's Inner Circle and Unreleased Songs

  • Taylor Swift's Inner Circle is a group dedicated to collecting unreleased songs.
  • They have provided descriptions of two Lover rejects: "All of the Girls" and "Need."
  • These songs have not been officially released but offer insight into Swift's songwriting process.

"Well we know of them through Taylor's inner circle Taylor's inner circle are basically a very exclusive group that exists that dedicate themselves to collecting unreleased songs and running a website where they well they used to run the website it's currently closed down but basically where they say what they have in their collection."

This quote explains how information about unreleased Taylor Swift songs, such as "All of the Girls" and "Need," comes from an exclusive group known as Taylor's Inner Circle, who collect and document her unreleased music.

Possible Collaborations for Reputation Vault

  • Previous vault releases have included collaborations with artists relevant to the era.
  • Collaborations might include artists who toured with Swift or those who fit the album's genre.
  • The pattern of collaborations is based on Swift's history with the artists and their connection to the album's themes.

"So normally there's an artist on the vault that was involved in the era so on Fearless it was Keith Urban and Taylor was on tour during the first era she was hit the support opening act for Keith Urban."

This quote highlights the pattern in Taylor Swift's vault releases, where collaborations often feature artists who were involved with Swift during the album's original era, suggesting possible collaborations for the Reputation Vault.

Collaboration Speculations for Taylor Swift's "Reputation" Vault Tracks

  • Taylor Swift's "Reputation" album is speculated to have collaborations with various artists in the vault tracks.
  • Possible collaborators include Drake, Selena Gomez, Troye Sivan, Hayley Kiyoko, Halsey, BTS, and Ariana Grande.
  • Collaborations are theorized based on patterns of artists being involved during specific album eras or having a sound that fits the album's style.
  • Drake is considered a likely collaborator due to his interactions with Taylor Swift between the "1989" and "Reputation" eras.
  • Selena Gomez's iconic performance with Taylor and her pop sound make her a strong candidate for a collaboration.
  • Troye Sivan and Hayley Kiyoko are both friends with Taylor and were part of the "Reputation" era, making them potential collaborators.
  • Halsey's darker sound and songwriting abilities align with the "Reputation" aesthetic.
  • BTS and Ariana Grande are less likely due to their distinct sounds and external factors like management conflicts.

"the first possible collaborator for the reputation vault could be drake"

This quote introduces the speculation about Drake being a potential collaborator on the vault tracks for Taylor Swift's "Reputation" album, based on their past interactions and his fitting sound for the album's style.

"another possible theory for the reputation vote is selena gomez"

This quote discusses the possibility of Selena Gomez collaborating on the "Reputation" vault tracks, highlighting her enduring friendship with Taylor Swift and her suitable pop sound.

"another artist that we think might be on the reputation vault who also appeared on the reputation stadium tour is troye sivan"

The quote suggests Troye Sivan as a potential collaborator, considering his friendship with Taylor Swift and his appearance during the "Reputation" era.

"another artist that we think might possibly be on the reputation involved is hayley kiyoko"

This quote proposes Hayley Kiyoko as a collaborator, pointing out her previous work with Taylor Swift and her relevance to the "Reputation" era.

"another artist that we think could possibly fit on the reputation vault even though they weren't really around in the reputation era is halsey"

The quote speculates about Halsey being a collaborator on the "Reputation" vault tracks, emphasizing her sound and friendship with Taylor Swift.

Producer Collaborations on Taylor Swift's Albums

  • The role of producers in Taylor Swift's re-recording projects is highlighted, with a focus on Jack Antonoff and Max Martin.
  • Fans have expressed disappointment over Max Martin's absence on "Red (Taylor's Version)".
  • There is a concern about replicating the distinct sounds of "Reputation" without Max Martin, though Taylor Swift's capabilities as a producer are recognized.
  • The essence of original recordings like "New Year's Day" may be challenging to recapture in the re-recorded versions.
  • Speculation exists on whether original collaborators like Max Martin will join the re-recording project for "Reputation".

"so obviously we know that jack antonoff is well on board with taylor for all of the re-recording projects so there's no problems there"

This quote confirms Jack Antonoff's involvement in Taylor Swift's re-recording projects, indicating a consistent collaboration.

"how would you feel or how do you feel do you think he will appear uh max martin will appear once again on reputation even though he didn't on red"

The quote expresses hope and speculation about Max Martin's potential involvement in the re-recording of "Reputation," despite his absence on "Red (Taylor's Version)".

"i really hope so i think that it'll be nice to have the original kind of collaborators um back on uh on taylor's version of reputation"

This quote reflects the desire for original collaborators like Max Martin to return for the "Reputation" re-recording, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the album's original sound.

"but i still think that um taylor's not silly she knows um the reputation the sound of reputation and the sound that people want from reputation"

This quote expresses confidence in Taylor Swift's understanding of "Reputation's" distinct sound and her ability to recreate it, even if original collaborators do not return.

Conclusion and Personal Preferences for Collaborations

  • The hosts conclude with their personal dream collaborators for the "Reputation" vault tracks, including Selena Gomez, Halsey, and Miley Cyrus.
  • They emphasize the excitement and anticipation for potential collaborations and the impact they could have on the album's reception.
  • The discussion acknowledges that while some collaborations are more likely than others, all speculations are based on personal opinions and desires.

"mine in my opinion uh a two that we've mentioned i would love to see selena. and i would love to see halsey both on the vault"

This quote reveals the host's personal preference for Selena Gomez and Halsey as collaborators on the "Reputation" vault tracks, based on their compatibility with the album's sound.

"i think selena would work really. well i think that everyone's we everyone's been waiting for a selena taylor club for a very long time"

The quote highlights the long-standing anticipation for a collaboration between Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift, suggesting it would be well-received by fans.

"but i also quite like a miley cyrus collab i think the taylor and miley could do a really really cool song"

This quote expresses a personal wish for a collaboration between Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift, imagining the potential for a powerful track on the "Reputation" album.

"but out of the ones that i think that are most likely i think selena troy and halsey are the three that um i definitely think uh the most likely to be on the reputation vault"

The quote summarizes the host's opinion on the most likely collaborators for the "Reputation" vault tracks, considering the artists' relevance to the era and their sounds.

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